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Posted by KXZ (Member # 119) on :

I agree, we need at least a five year break before the next series. If you go to www.startrek.com and read about how the cast of DS9 got together for the final episode, you will read about the Q&A period during the viewing. The cast was asked how they felt about a new series. No one answered at first but Nicole deBoeur made a joke about Michael Dorn and being on the new series. Nana Visitor said she was proud of what she did on ST: DS9 and likes it. One of the producers then said something like "That's one." I was thinking that maybe in 2007 or so, a new series starts. Bajor is now part of the Federation, and the Bajoran militia is part of Starfleet. Kira is now a Captain and given command of a Prometheus class starship (the class could be changed). She could take the ship on a exploratory mission to the Gamma Quadrant, keep the peace there, visit Breen space, maybe meet Sisko in the wormhole or something else. They Star Trek universe could be really changed by then. The ship could have new technology if Voyager is back. The Federation, Klingons and Romulans could have some new alliance. Quantum Slip Stream or Transwarp could be perfected.

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Posted by Tachy on :

Then what...same people, same shit, same audience, same wallets....same complaints..same forums...same flamewars because this and that...

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... do you have a plot ?

is there a reason for a new Trek series, maybe that would be better to explain....

...everyone in DS9 could be given a plotless ship .....

....nothing new....

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

If that made sense, I might be inclined to reply.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

*looks at Tachy*

*thinks long and hard*

Huh?

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Posted by Voyager on :

If and when a do a new series 5-10 years from when Voyager ends, I think they should base it on the ST:New Frontier book series.

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

Voyager, I made a similar comment a few weeks back, and I was given the warning I'm about to give you: I like the premise of NF, too *ducks to avoid flying tomatoes*, but most people here don't, so I'd suggest you duck as well.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

TOS took place in the 2260s. TNG/DS9/VOY are in the 2360s/70s. Perhaps the next series should be based in the 2460s. Skip a century, and be able to have new stuff.

I'm sure someone's said this before, so don't go complaining or anything... :-)

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Posted by JEM on :

I assume that what Tachy is refering to is that any new Star Trek series should really be based on a completely new premise. Consider;

TOS portrayed the future in which (the cream of) mankind set off exploring strange new worlds etc. etc.

TNG was exactly the same but it worked because of the long gap after 1969 and the stories, effects etc were much better.

DS9 had a different setting. As I understand it was originally intended to portray life for the vast majority of Starfleet personnel, not at the leading edge of exploration but those involved in more run-of-the-mill postings. I don't think this really worked too well as it was far too limiting hence the introduction of the Dominion during the second series, increasing tension and eventually all out warfare.

Finally Voyager had yet another premise. That of a single vessel isolated from the rest of starfleet and having to confront a different set of problems.

So what then for Star Trek version 5? AlthoughI havn't read any of the NF stories I have a general idea of what they are about. IMHO a series based on them or Nana Visitor captaining a new vessel (Alpha quadrant or Gamma is doesn't matter) is just a rehash of TOS/TNG with different faces, ships, technology etc.

The only new premise I have heard of while keeping within the ST universe is Flight Academy (yes I know I am dreading the concept too), or maybe a series based around the viewpoint of an alien civilisation (Klingons or Romulans) although I doubt that will happen.

All in all, if I were a gambling man I might well be tempted to put a little bet on the next series being based at the Academy. If its done well this may not be as bad as some were expecting, I for one originally hated the concepts behind Voyager and DS9 but they didn't turn out too bad.

Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

In five to ten years, trek could do another exploration story.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

But we're all so attached to the 24th century, TSN!

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Posted by Voyager on :

*Takes Omega's advice and ducks*

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Posted by Saiyanman Benjita (Member # 122) on :

I've never read the new frontier books, but plan to someday. As for the next series, who knows? There are so many different ways to go about it, we could be completely wrong. They'll still surprise us when it comes out, and we'll enjoy it like we enjoyed the first four.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

I just realized something. The fifth series can't start 'til Voyager gets home. Think about it. "Encounter at Farpoint" had Dr. McCoy in it. "Emissary" had Captain Picard. "Caretaker" had Quark. When the fifth series starts, it'll have to have a guest appearance by a Voyager cast member, which they can't do 'til it gets back... :-)

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

A nice tradition, bet they don't keep it.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Well, tradition can be bent on occasion.

And who says they have to get home for a member to be in the show? Could it not just as easily be an EMH? Or if it happens in the future, it could be any of the cast from Voyager...

And DS9 is the only series to use all the major Star Trek TV sets, all incarnations...

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Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :

I enjoyed the Intrepid class ship on DS9. Did they ID the ship? I don't remember. I know it was the Voyager model, but I was wondering if they used a name in the DS9 eppy.

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Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :

Didn't catch the episode yet, but I think you're referring to 'Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges', which I spoiled myself something rotten once the Vulcan Cafe posted a very detailed synopsis. Only myself to blame, I suppose.
The ship was Admiral Ross', and it was the U.S.S. Bellepheron.

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

The registry of the Bellerephon is NCC-74705 btw.

Hobbes
9907.23

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

The big problem is that going beyond the 24th century would involve such an increase in technology seen on screen that it was just become too powerful. I mean, what's the point of the 'Trek' when you just slipstream to Andromeda? What's the point of a crew if AI and holographic technology could run the ship with an army of EMH-style programs? What fun is combat when everybody has phase-cloaks?

The mid-to-late 24th century is a good level of technology to work with when telling a story. Any further and it just makes everything too "magical".

A series set later on would only invite more plot solutions from the inverse technobabbleon emitter.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Well, perhaps the Federation has its own Butlerian Jihad at some point.

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