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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

I read in a magasine somewhere that the STTMP DVD will include scenes that was cut from the film. I was wondering does anyone have more information on this?

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

I've heard that there will be a scene with Admiral Nogura.

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Posted by RAMA (Member # 380) on :

Look on this site
http://talk.trekweb.com/articles/2000/07/20/964147223.html

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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

Looks good but i hope these extras are included in the region 2 DVD when it is released.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

I have an article from a magazine upstairs on all the cut scenes... and how they would effect the movie. I'll go and get it and type it out later, if anyone wants.

They mention that there are some sections were the orchestrations need to be added. Will they be doing this for the DVD?

Andrew

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I've only heard rumors, but they all seem to agree that this release is going to be anywhere from somewhat to vastly different from previous ones. I would look into it more closely, but as I don't yet have a DVD player any such features are lost on me.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

NX: If the region 2 ones don't have them, you can always buy the region 1 ones. Try Express.com. Actually, even accounting for shipping, it's often cheaper to buy them from there than it would be to buy them in the shops.

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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

The only problem is the DVD player i have on my computer is region 2 only and so will the PS2. So for the near future i am stuck with region 2 DVD's only.

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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

In my experience this Region-problem something to do with your DVD-Rom and the player you are using, NX!

First you must know which DVD-Rom you have, than you must look in some kind of ROM list to see if your ROM is region locked
Go to:
http://www.7thzone.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?id_page=locklist
for example.

there are five kinds of DVD-Roms:
1.Drive is region free by default (RPC-1) (best choice)
2.Drive needs firmware update to be region free (at your own risk)
3.NEVER remove RPC jumper or drive will be region locked, FOREVER !!!
4.Drive is definitively region locked (RPC-2) (worst choice)
Or no trick's known to make it region free yet.
5.Drive is region locked by default (RPC-2).
A flash utility can erase/reset region counter within its firmware : you can change region as often as you wish (at your own risks).

if you have one of the good ones, than you must online find a good dvd-player which you can "overwrite".

There is a good tool called DVD-Genie.... This disables the lock codes.

That's the way you can enjoy Region1 DVDs on a Region2 DVD-ROM!

I for myself have a Region2 DVD-ROM....

Good luck!

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Is there any purpose to the region thing, or is is just another monopolistic brainchild of the Motion Picture Association of Assholes?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I rememeber reading about it, but I forget the details.

But to make an unfounded guess, I'd say that its an effort to track sales or keep them local. Sell version X in one place, and if it turns up where version Y should be, you know something fishy is going on.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

What, like somebody bought the disc while they were on vacation? Or a friend who lives somewhere else got tired of it and gave it to them? There would be so many possibilities, it wouldn't do any good for finding "fishy" situations.

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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

I think there are two reasons for region locks!

1. that was mentioned above... to keep the incomings for bought dvds local. (exp. First Contact bought in USA R1 -> money goes to Paramount USA --- First Contacr bought in Germany -> money goes to Paramount Germany)

2. Release Dates! Most of the movies released in the USA have a delayed showing here in Europe! (exp. The movie "Girls, Interrupted" was released here in Germany in July (or so), as i went to my local Comic-Shop they already had the movie as US DVD (r1).

I think they're just afraid people will buy more DVDs than walk into the cinemas! Which is total nonsense cause an imported R1 DVD costs about 30$ here, and a local R2 20$.... and of course a cinema ticket about 7$!

Don't let me transfer it into Euro's!

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Now that you've mentioned it, I'd bet that release date argument is the main reason.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Which is rediculous, they should release movies at the same time, at least in English speaking countries... I mean its crazy that we see movies in Australia (sometimes) a few months after the states, and everything has been spoiled. Luckily The X-men movie wasn't like that.

I hope that The Lord of the Rings movies is released around the world at the same time.

Andrew

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Does anyone know, when the DVD will be released?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

It's apparently taking them longer than they thought, though I had never seen an official release date announced. If I had to guess, I'd say fourth quarter 2001. That's a nice solid date. It's also when TNG is rumored to make its DVD appearence.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Will they be releasing the other Trek series on DVD too?

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Almost certainly. But there haven't been any official announcements about them yet.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

I figured they would, I should have been more specific in asking if they made any kind of official announcement or plans to soon.

Posted by colin (Member # 217) on :

I think that the second and third series will be done on DVD and have a long, successful run. However, I think that the demand for the fourth series is lower and that this series may not be done on DVD. And the fifth series, which could be completed by 2010, may be offered on a variant of the DVD or another recordable device.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Oh, of course they'll do Voyager.

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Here's an article from the Dallas Observer about the restoration of ST:TMP
http://www.dallasobserver.com/issues/2001-02-08/stuff.html

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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

I wonder will Paramount release the DVD's in a 4 episode format or will they release it all in a special box set.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Four? Ha! Try two. You wouldn't want people to get away with buying fewer DVDs than necessary.

Though that's TOS. I suppose it could always change in the future.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

They ARE selling the TNG-episodes with four ep's a piece. At least in my country.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

That new article about TMP has at least one highly interesting comment that I can't really make heads or tails of. Is the "memory wall" sequence going to be in the new version or not? The wording couldn't be less clear...

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

You know, the recent trend for box sets here in the UK has made Star Trek seem ridiculously overpriced. �30 gets you half a season of Angel or Buffy. �13 gets you TWO episodes of Star Trek.

So... �60 per Buffy/Angel season, �169 for a season of Star Trek. And I'd much rather have a season of Angel than a season of Voyager.

Hell, even the limited run box sets, like the X-Files, never cost �100 for a season.

And they're just starting to release Buffy on DVD now. The first season for �30-40 (I can't remember), with commentary on selected episodes. What extras are their on the TOS DVD's? What extras will there by on the TNG DVD's? HMM? Answer me!

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

That sounds horrible!

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Timo: I agree that's a poorly written sentence. I think it means that the memory wall scene is unseen footage that WON'T be included in the new version. I think.

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Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Wise: 'Trek: TMP' DVD
The newly reconstructed Director's Version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture is soon coming on DVD, and its director, Robert Wise, has been talking about it.

While talking to the Los Angeles New Times Wise spoke of his dissatisfaction as well as his newfound acceptance with the film, saying, "At the time I made it, I was pretty unhappy. There were some unfortunate things going on. We had problems with the script -- we were rewriting the script all the way through -- and I got along well with the actors, but it was not one of my happiest experiences, so I always had a bit of a downer on it. There were so many things taken out I don't think should have been taken out, so when I had a chance to go back belatedly and put some of those scenes back in, that made me much happier about the film. With all my other films, everything went fine -- I got my cut on them and got along with the studios. This is the only one I had this experience with."

Wise participated in the creation of the upcoming newly wrought version of the film, which uses newly created CG material as well as carefully recutting the film to bring in previous cut footage as well as snipping out redundant material. After finally seeing the new version, Wise said, "When I did West Side Story, we screened it for the cast and crew before we took it to the Midwest for a couple of sneak previews. I'll never forget, Sam Goldwyn and his wife were there, and Mrs. Goldwyn said to me after the showing, "The minute I sat down in the theater, I wasn't in that theater. I was in that film, all the way through it.' That's the greatest compliment you can pay any film. It grabs the audience from the very beginning and never lets them go. They forget they're looking at a film. That's what you try for. And I've finally done that with Star Trek."

(Thanks to Shawn Turpin and Okuda for the tips!)

From Cinescape.

Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Well he'd better not let us down then!

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