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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

If you haven't seen the movie "The Dish" - do. Its VERY good. Anyway - I'm currently listening to the soundtrack - THIS is the way a Star Trek soundtrack should be done.

Andrew

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

I'm partial to Babylon 5/Tangerine Dream music myself.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

The majority of Music from Babylon 5/Crusade is utter garbage. Christopher Franke is a hack. And Evan H Chen is a no-talent hack. Ugh.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

*SMITE*

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Yes, but this soundtrack (The Dish) its a REAL orchestra...

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Personally, I love the B5 style of music. However, I wouldn't want it for Star Trek.

The best Trek movie soundtracks were II and FC. I wouldn't want Goldsmith to do the next film (and the chances of getting Horner are slim to none), since Insurrection sounded a bit "samey" at times. Get Chris, er, thingy, who did VI. That soundtrack was great, especially considering that he was a relative newcomer. 10 years on, I'm sure he'd blow our socks off.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Cliff Eidelman, actually.

His stuff now is quite sub-par as compared to ST:VI.

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

What about a lil' theme song made by Moby, or Apollo 440. Would be fun!

IMHO, i find the intros to DS9 and especially VOY a little too boring.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Oh yes, nothing like a amateur commercial-scorer to make your film score really shine. Dear Gods.

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

LOL

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I wouldn't mind hearing something on the experimental side. I mean, maybe not like getting Phillip Glass to compose the score, but something. One thing I love about TMP is the way the strange and wonderful V'Ger sounds mix in and around and over the music.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

True. I didn't really care for that when I first watched it (I was young. To paraphrase someon, I still thought that the 1812 Overture was a great piece of classical music), but it does grow on you. It actually took me ages to realise that the original TOS music plays several times while the Enterprise is inside the cloud.

I still don't understand why they didn't use the opening fanfare though...

The problem with being experimental, is that, well, sometimes it sounds crap. Did anyone like the Chen music for Crusade? Thought not. Franke managed to be different from the now sci-fi/space opera standard (John Williams/Jerry Goldsmith), but it was still involving and emotional (for example, when the White Star crashes into Z'Ha'Dum, when Sheridan relives his death in "Whatever happened to Mr Garibladi?", and the great end of series music from "Sleeping in Light". Plus the theme to season 3. That's class).

I read somewhere that a lot of the music in First Contact should be credited to Joel Goldsmith anyway. Does he have a stupid ponytail as well?

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Is that the announcer guy from Conan O'Brien!?!

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

The Dish, brilliant stuff. On a side note, has 'The Dish' been realeased in the northern hemisphere? I remember Santo (real name) saying that they were looking for a local launch.

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Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :

I like Prakesh's idea for a ST soundtrack with Moby and Apollo 440 (I'm not referring to their Lost In Space theme). Those artists have proven that they can make 'spacy' music. I'd also like to hear Chemical Brothers on a ST soundtrack.

I don't really dislike the orchestral music associated with Star Trek series and movies, but I think it's a good idea to have a soundtrack for ST10 with some more popular music by artists known by a great public. Commercially, it's interesting anyway - it diminishes Star Trek's 'cult' image, making ST more interesting for a greater public.

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Contemporary music dates the film. Look at "Fast Times At Ridgemont High" or "Ferris Bueller's Day Off." Or anything shown on MST3K.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

You want to make Star Trek more acceptable for a general audience? Loose any word that contains more than two sylables. And have all the women wear their pants and bra. And nothing else.

Besides, unless something's changed drastically in the 2 weeks since I last went to the pictures, I'm pretty sure that 90% of all films today use "classical" music anyway. Sure, they may have the odd song in their (which is usually pants), but most of the film uses a symphonic orchestra. Lost in Space did. The Apollo track only came in for the end credits.

Do you want Star Wars scored by the Prodigy?

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Yeah, most Hollywood music is probably best classified as "Late Romantic Era", meaning 1880-1900 AD mainstream European (= mostly German) orchestral music with overtones of pompous British military scores. A movie risks a lot if it doesn't use this type of music as the basic material. The only other safe bet that won't alienate the majority of the viewers is five-year-old popular music - younger people can listen and pretend it's not too out of date yet, while older people can pretend to understand it, and still claim it's modern enough not to be an "oldie" suited for a fossilized listenership.

Personally, I hope Trek stays with the good old Williams/Horner late romantic style for the time being. It's way too late for it to begin building an identity of its own as far as music is concerned.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

And what would be the best way to do that? Why, to get Horner back to score Trek X!

Kids programs often use semi-classical music too. Pokemon uses the original Japanese score, all orchestral versions of the Game Boy themes, and it sounds lovely.
Beast Machines uses some weird techno thing. I can't say I'm a fan, but it suits the feel of the show, in the same way that the synth/tribal drums music captured the feel of Beast Wars.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Yeah Horner has some nice scores, but I can pick him a mile off... I really noticed it with Bicentennial Man...

Horner'd be nice - but I wouldn't go all out to get him.

Jerry Goldsmith again is nice - but if they're going to get him back - he'd better think up something new and not just do a rehash.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

Cliff Eidelmann should do ST: X

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Fuck that. Pull in the big guns. Get Hans Zimmer or Basil Poledouris, man. Half the soundtracks in my collection are theirs. "Gladiator," "Smilla's Sense Of Snow," "Hunt For Red October".....

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Posted by Quatre Winner (Member # 464) on :

*tosses 2 cents in*
James Horner for Trek X.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

John Debney.

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