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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

OK...I'm thinking about this because it's turning out to be an integral part of Brynja's story.

In the real armed services, fraternization between officers and enlisted is a strict no-no. Given that DS9 & VGR have basically obliterated GR's edict of "no enlisted," I'm wondering if Starfleet would exercise that same train of thought re: fraternization.

I'm having a hard time reconciling this one. On one hand, they're an "enlightened" structure, so it could be possible...but on the other, they may decide to keep it to make sure nothing hinky goes on.

The only thing I can think of that would show no sort of anti-fraternization rule would be all those times that Sisko or Data or whoever had O'Brien over for dinner, etc.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

What about all those times Bashir and O'Brien were:
on the holodeck?
playing raquetball?
foiling S31's plans?

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

I've seen it slide sometimes, when the officer has no ability to influence the career of the enlisted person. My friends brother was an Army PFC and was seeing a Navy Lt., and no one raised a stink about it.

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Probably because they were too busy securing the Movie-of-the-Week rights on the quiet. . . 8)

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Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

Roddenberry had "an edict of no enlisted"? This is the first time I have ever heard about that. A quasi military organization of all leaders and no followers eh?

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Roddenberry wanted to seperate his Starfleet in certain ways from existing military organizations. But there were plenty of people on TOS whose enlisted status was implied, if not explicit.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Like all the people whose rank was "crewman"? :-)

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Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

I was just watching "Menagerie" and one of the dudes in the pajama looking technician uniforms was addressed as chief.

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Then again, he could have been a Lieutenant (or a Rear Admiral) with the position of Chief of Transporter Operations. Lt. Kyle was called "chief" as well...

One of the more telling things is that "The Cage", written by Roddenberry himself, featured a character credited as "CPO Garrison" in the end credits. If Gene wanted an all-officer Fleet at one time, he did not do so all the time. (Or were Garrison's first names Clark Peter Oliver? )

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

DERAIL...!!

Look at the forest gents, not the individual buggery trees. This isn't meant to be a discussion of Roddenberry's thoughts on the existence of enlisted officer. I need to know thoughts on stratification fraternization. Seriously. Like...chop chop. Brynja's getting pushy, & Icelandic women aren't pretty when they're pushy.

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