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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Did Denise Crosby choose to leave TNG, or did the producers want to kill off Lt. Yar? Certainly, looking back at the first season of TNG, her character is the most underused -- even Worf (who originally was just supposed to be a supernumery officer) gets more screen time than she does!

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
I thought Worf = Spock... That is, they didn't *want* them on the show, they kept them around as set dressing, and they each grew to be one fo th show's more popular characters.

As for Yar, Crosby did indeed feel underused and wanted out. Which is odd, since she left before the season's end (my guess is that she wanted out early to be available for casting of new fall shows, which would have been happening around the time she quit). Still, the producers managed to get a workable episode out of it - killing her senselessly instead of an heroic death.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
She didn't do anything to warrant anything else, of course.

Looking back, I don't think she would have been much more than a hindrace for anything. Worf was a much more interesting character, and gave us nifty Klingon episodes. What would Yar have brought to the table? Episodes about militant orphans? Woohoo.

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Posted by Soontir_Fel on :
 
They did use her death well though. Bringing her back in Yesterday's Enterprise, her daughter in Redemption and Unification. All good episodes.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
I'd still like to see her brought back. As Tasha.

Impossible? I always hoped that that eternal practical jokester Q would pop her onto the bridge of Picard's bridge, and let him (and her) worry themselves to death about whether or not it was really "her".

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
I always envisioned a newly-emotioned Data deciding to change history and rescue her from the Romulans. Picard would have to go after him and prevent damage to the timeline, so you end up with a whole "Heart of Darkness" theme. . . how I cursed when they started saying "Insurrection" was going to be like "Heart of Darkness!" But fortunately they screwed it up.

So there you have it, my secret shame, my most illogically fanboyish idea ever. You heard it here first. 8)

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
My Ghu, what a great idea...

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
You know, for all we know, she might still be alive. Remember, all the evidence we have that she's dead is the word of a Romulan.

'Course, she'd be about sixty...

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
She'd still be hot, though

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
No she wouldn't.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
That's what I was going to say.

I wonder how TNG would be different if Sirtis had been cast as Yar, and Crosby as Troi.

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Posted by Saltah'na (Member # 33) on :
 
Actually, you're not too far out.

When they were planning the series, they had a character by the name of Lt. Marcha Hernandez, who Sirtis would have been cast as. Hernandez was meant to be the equivalent of Yar. Something changed however.......

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Yeah. Her nationality, from something Hispanic to Ukrainian. *L*

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Oh, Denise Crosby is the bomb. Granted, at 60, the allure may start to fade, but I'd give her better odds than most.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
 
She's like, the man-est looking on star trek. Ew.

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Posted by Right on :
 
You just don't like women with short hair. How cute

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
C'mon, Ezri looked good enough to eat.

But I also think Yar lacked any charm whatsoever. She reminds me of one of the morlocks in the "X-Men" comics, Marrow.

In fact, Yar would've been my guess for an ep about lesbian relations... With Dr Pulaski... They could've taken turns giving eachother a crewcut.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Dude! Yar, a lesbian? That girl had a sex drive! First, Data in Naked Now, then, in Hide and Q, she hits on Picard! "Oh, if only you weren't the captain..." God! If Denise Crosby hadn't left the series, she'd've slept with the entire senior staff by now!

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
So basically, she does it with a robot, and hits on a man she knows that she can't possibly have.

She is so gay.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Don't forget, she got inot Troi's quarters in "The Naked Now", and started putting on Troi's clothes. Getting ready for a little game of "dress-up", perhaps...?

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Oh roleplay, behave!
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Those were Troi's clothes? Well, thank Christ we never saw her wearing them then. 8)

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Don't forget the guy in the blue she's making out with, either.

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"Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!"
-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?


 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Dear God. She slept with one of the Edo, too.

"Any hat."

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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?


 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
And Lutan! Dear god! This girl is such a ...

*ahem*

Can you tell I've recently purchased a large number of first-season TNG laserdiscs?

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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?


 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
That would explain the giggling.

(I mean, honestly, laserdisc?)

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Sol,

I've been picking up two-episode discs for about $10 a pop (I got "Duet" and "In The Hands of the Prophets" for $5, actually). I've got a bid going on a collection of "Redemption I & II, Reunion, and Sins of the Father" for $10. Good deal! Liquidating old Star Trek laserdiscs is a good way to pick up old eps for cheap

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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Somehow I have ST:FC, if you want it.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Already got it, but thanks for the offer.

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"Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!"
-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?


 


Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
LOL! LOL! LOL!

I'm here laughing with tears... *LAUGH*

This thread has been the FUNNIEST thing I've read in a long time...

I'm just thinking about the scene with Yar wearing Troi's clothes... 'roleplaying'... LOL!

Was there anything with Geordi or Worf... or Crusher!?!

LOL!

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