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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Could anyone tell me which set was adapted for the Relativity's Bridge in "Relativity" And which Consoles were adapted. It is unlike Paramount to create new props/sets and then dispose of them (witness the infamous "pool table". We may be seeing these in the new series...

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Posted by Soontir_Fel on :

How about the Prometheus' bridge. It did have a resemblence to it. The wide open area, the lone center captain's chair. A two? person helm console. The colours were darker but it look basically the same.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Nyaha! A bridge question!

Anyway, surprisingly most of the Relativity bridge set *is* new, at least in arangement. most of the components are rearranged bits and pieces from other sets. The seats, for example, were originally seen on the ST5 movie bridge - 600 years ago, relatively speaking (mind you, they've also been seen on *every* starship since 1989, including the Enterprise D and E, Defiant, and Voyager). The Transporter pad was partially recycled from the Defiant's (I'm fairly sure), although the walls behind the pad are newish). The aft consoles have been seen on several sets, alien and otherwise (they were in the Equinox sickbay, for example). The Captain's and forward consoles were new, I think, but it may just be the LCARS stuff throwing us off.

Mark

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

I thought the Prometeus bridge set was the same as the Excelsior in 'Flashback'.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Well, rearranged and repainted, yes. Plus with new nifty lighting thingys, chair, "pit" section and so forth.

Mark

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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :

So the topic of this one about the new bridge is Series 5 right? What's wrong with using Voyager's bridge?

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Because they like to build new sets for new series.

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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

BTW...
The Equinox Bridge is a redress of the USS Prometheus bridge.
I think the Sickbay from the Prometheus was redressed as a room for the Krenim Timeship in "Year of Hell".
And they reused some of Prometheus Parts (mostly the consoles) for the Dauntles.

The Museum Room in "Living Witness" was reused as S'ona Medical Room in "Insurrection".
I think the Control Room in "Dragons Teeth" was reused as the Starfleet Midas Command Center from "The Pathfinder Project".

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Posted by Eclipse (Member # 472) on :

Actually, the Equinox bridge was a redress of the Defiant, not the Prommie.

Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

No, it was the Prometheus. The Defiant set had nothing to do with the Equinox. Just look at the side stations and try to match them up with the Defiant bridge, for starters. The back is all different as well. So is the front. And the middle, for that matter. All different.

Mark <--knows these things

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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

Yeah, the only time i can remember when we saw a redress of the Defiant Bridge was in Voyager Episode "Live fast and Prosper".

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

...Which was re-used early this season as the Ferengi Marauder bridge in "Inside Man".

Mark

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Ferengi Marauder? On VOY?

And what would this be -- the first time we've seen a Marauder since TNG's 2nd or third season?

Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

7th, actually, with "Bloodlines" (where DaiMon Bok from "The Battle" comes back claiming to have Picard's son). They use that nifty subspace transporter to beam several light years to Bok's Marauder.

And then that technology is of course never seen or heard from again... And appraently ignored with the Dominion's edition of the same thing.

mark

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Well, I still say that we may very well see various items from "Relativity" in Series V, which would lean it towards the late 25th Century (I hope).

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

It seems to me that there wasn't all that much that was new about the Relativity, in terms of sets or props that were built.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Isn't it likely to be on the old movie/battle-bridge set? That's been modified for over a decade, so it wouldn't be a surprise if it's almost completely different now.

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

I don't know. I can't recognize the Relativity console hardware at all, and I don't recognize the bridge either (unless it's a redress of the Ent-E).

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

It reminded me somehow of the DS9 Ops set.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Have I ever told you guys how much I love Google? Check this out:
http://www.uss-voyager.fsnet.co.uk/uss_relativity.htm

Everything you'd ever want to know about the bridge of thr Timeship Relativity. Well, from the episode itself, anyway.

Note that the CO and forward consoles are newbuilds, though the forward chairs are endlessly-recycled ones from the ST5 bridge, and the CO chair is modified from the new one built for the USS Prometheus bridge.

There's some nice reference material on this site for other ships too, check it out:
http://www.star-trek-voyager.fsnet.co.uk/articles.htm#ships

Mark

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

There's one hella-detailed tour of the Voyager sets there too - I'm sifting through it right now. This will be immensely helpful wit the blueprints; Dave et. al., I suggest you look through this one...

And tying in, you can see that large chunks of the Relativity bridge were built from... The Voyager science lab!
http://www.grms.fsnet.co.uk/ship_scilab.htm

Mark

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[This message has been edited by Mark Nguyen (edited March 16, 2001).]

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Actually, I read where the Son'a room was a redress of the museum from Living Witness... THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Heh - not even. The stairs and walls were all in the same place. They just redressed the walls, added in all those face-stretching props, and turned off the lights so people wouldn't notice.

Mark

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Mark:
Good catch! I will begin preparations to modify/create labs on deck 8 to match this.

ps: Although it is referred to a the "Science Lab", I cannot believe that this is the only lab dedicated to science aboard a Science Research Vessel. Enterprise TOS had 26 I think. Comment? Could you provide a list of labs needed?

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

By the way, how many images like this (showing Voyager rooms) are there? Is there one for the Doctor's Medical Lab?

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Well this particular site boasts over 450 pictures of various locations around the ship. It also seems to be current through the sixth season, so almost everything we've ever seen on the ship is represented there. I'm still shuffling through it - there's plenty of good reference stuff for lots of ships from Voyager.

Also, the Doc's lab seems to have been re-use of "the" science lab set. And yes, there's more than one. The set has been used as a generic science lab, environmental control (second or third season - can't remember specifically, but it was on the lower decks), and a storage room on I think. Bits of this set have been seen on the Relativity, and more recently as parts of the comm lab Barclay works at.

Dave, I suggest you can replace some of your replicate astrometrics labs with these lab sets. It makes Seven's place that much more unique.

Mark

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

And what was it with that set in the 'Data becomes officially sentient' episode. Were they judging on a bridge? Could that've been the Lantree bridge seen very quick a few episode later (or earlier)?

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

It was not a bridge, but it was a redress of the battlebridge set, which was also redressed as the Lantree bridge, which had been the E-refit and E-A bridge from the first four movies.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

*gasp* Someone got to a bridge question before me!

Mark

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