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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

from Section 31.com

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Another source claiming to be from Paramount has contacted Trekweb and given them
the following info regarding Series V...
The source, unfortunately, did not provide enough information to
accurately confirm whether these credentials are valid, though the nature
of the information is clearly above the "I read the script" or "I've seen the
casting sheet" variety of weeks gone by.
1. The new ship is the Enterprise -- but it's "I", not "F" or "E" or any letter
in-between
2. As you guessed from #1, V is set in the future -- to be more specific
about 150 years after the current timeline
3. Scott Bakula is the Captain -- and the character is definitely more of a
"cowboy" like Kirk. His first officer is a Romulan -- and a female. The rest
of the info on the casting sheet that went out is crap.
4. Enterprise I is not on a mission of discovery -- it's a warship (and wait
'til you see what the designers came up with!). There's a war on and the
Federation isn't doing so hot. And the enemy? I'll save that "little" tidbit
for later -- no Borg thank God! I think the fans are really going to love it --
even I was blown away when I first heard about it.

Hmmmmmmmmm, well well well...

I must say this info DOES sound a little better than the prequal idea...

Although the idea of the Enterprise being a WARSHIP... is nasty.

The whole Cowboy thing + War + Warship... sounds like the premise to Andromeda?? Or some other shows... There have been PLENTY of War shows... I think the only shows out there that have worked without being around War... are TNG and Stargate-SG1... oh and these shows have open ended premises... not "When will they get home" or "When will he find a wormhole home" or "When will he find his lost love from the Tantalus Colony" or "When will they reach the new 'home' on Earth 2" or "When will they... etc. etc. because once they've done that - the show is finished...

DS9 - worked VERY well, and included WAR and peace... balanced... political intruige, the nature of faith and still dealing with fighting for peace/ having peace/ dealing with an alien situation/ and STILL exploring strange new worlds... except they were closer to home.

Another problem with this new info is the "Fanboyishness" of it...

BTW, not wanting to blow my own... trumpet? But I had ideas LONG ago after DS9 finished, or actuctually during its seventh season for a post DS9 series... dealing with the aftermath of the Dominion War... with a Romulan XO.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Grain of salt.

Wait for Paramount's official announcement. We're going to hear about it before the Voyager series finale - and I'm more than willing to bet money on it.

Mark

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

These Series V rumors are starting to get really tiresome...

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I don't have the energy to speculate anymore. I'll just wait and see what they say.

I will say this though, if it's set 150 years in the future, you'll have to explain things like "what happened to the Borg". Stuff that happened in between.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

The Enterprise-I? Looks silly. Like a Roman '1'. Enterprise-1. Silly.

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Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

They'll be sure to use a serif font on the hull lettering.

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Microgramma Bold Extended has no serif for it's capital "I", interestingly enough. So they'd have to change the font. Did the Relativity use the same lettering style on the hull as modern SF ships use?

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

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The new ship is the Enterprise -- but it's "I", not "F" or "E" or any letter in-between

It's not E?? Well DUUUHHHHH!!! We already know that it's going to be a new ship...

Could someone pass me the salt please? Thank you...

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Posted by MIB on :

*dumps 1/4 of a cup salt into his mouth* UHHHHHHHH. If these rumors have any truth to them what so ever, that means the new series can have THREE yesterday's Enterprise episodes!!!! WOO WHO Now if you will excuse me, all of a sudden, I am REALLY thirsty.

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

NOOOOOOO! STAR TREK IS NOT ABOUT WARS EXCEPT BECAUSE OF DS9 WHICH WAS KOOL BUT I WANT A SHIP OF PEACE AND EXPLORATION TO "BOLDLY GO WHERE NO MAN HAS GONE BEFORE" AND NOT ONE WITH FIFTY-MILLION TORPEDO LAUNCHERS AND SIXTY-HUNDRED THOUSAND MARINES!!!

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Or, as Guinan put it:

"This is not a ship of war ... it's a ship of peace."

Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

Never mind.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

I choose not to believe this for the sole reason that I don't think they'd be stupid enough to pick the letter "I." It doesn't even roll of your tongue right.

"This is the Federation Starship Enterprise-I ..."

NaCl please?

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

I'd prefer the "H" myself ... nice ring to it, huh?

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"I will say this though, if it's set 150 years in the future, you'll have to explain things like "what happened to the Borg". Stuff that happened in between."

You mean like how TNG immedietly explained what happed to everyone in the 80 years between?

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Well, TNG came before continuity was invented.

The fan audience of today is more demanding in this respect. Series VI (*) can't start off with the sort of abandon TNG did, with nary an idea of even the length of time between it and the previous show. In "Farpoint", fans could just barely accept a 137-yr-old McCoy paired with an android who graduated in '78, since there were so many conflicting timelines about TOS and the movies and nobody could completely nail down the dates. Doing something like that today would only invite our undivided wrath...

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

What I meant is that there have been certain elements introduced into the Star Trek universe that would need to be explained. The Borg are huge and powerful and seem to be ever expanding. 150 years from now they should be more prevalent, not less. If known space has widened, one would think that encounters with them would be more frequent, not less.

I mean, they're everywhere. If they're suddenly going to just not be an issue anymore, we need to know what happened to them. Same goes for the Dominion too, probably.

This is just my opinion. I'm convinced though, that the whole "This series won't have Star Trek in the title" thing is going to be an excuse for the PTB to throw out the last two hundred years of precedent and "do Trek the way we want to do it."

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Mabye Q-junior provokes the Borg so much that the Q-Continuum decides to snap their collective fingers and eliminate them ... ?

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

At this point, that'd be fine with me. Hell, if the Delta Flyer can hold its own against a cube, the Borg deserve to be put out of they're misery.

They's just better say it on screen :0)

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

'I'm convinced though, that the whole "This series won't have Star Trek in the title" thing is going to be an excuse for the PTB to throw out the last two hundred years of precedent and "do Trek the way we want to do it."'

So, what have they been doing since about season 3 of TNG?

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Yes, I understand they have been steadily pulling away from Roddenbury Trek since mid TNG. I'm talking about putting it far enough in the future that they don't have to even worry about anything that's happened before and can completely forget it. The technology, structure, and fan base will be there, but I don't think anything else will relate.

Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

I still think a future series would be best, since it would allow them to do "previous era" (note the avoidance of the words time travel) episodes.

By the way - we wouldn't have to have TT episodes often - in fact we couldn't. No character could go back more than 2 or 3 times - due to Temporal Psychosis. So we'd either we new blood doing the trips (GREAT! - no guarantee that the mission will be a success or that the character will survive!) - or said trips would be very few and far between.

Even cooler would be "previous era" tie-in episodes WITHOUT time travel.

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

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Another problem with this new info is the "Fanboyishness" of it...

No kidding. Saying something such as "just wait until you see what the designers came up with [for the new ship]!" would imply that this person actually saw the ship. Well instead of sounding like a bad commercial, why didn't he or she just describe the design? Or say who the new enemy was? That's the whole point of a spoiler, to give you the news ahead of time so that any surprise you might be in store for is utterly ruined.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

"By the way - we wouldn't have to have TT episodes often - in fact we couldn't. No character could go back more than 2 or 3 times - due to Temporal Psychosis. "

Okay, I'm guessing this is Voyager stuff (with Captain Ran-thingy).

Was that a character specific thing? Because I seem to remember the original Trek crew travelling through time on several occasions. And they all turned out pretty well. Apart from Chekov.

Hell, using modern Trek, O'Brien travelled through time at least 5 "times" in Visionary. And he didn't go bananas.

Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Liam: are you smoking CRACK? O'Brien DIED!!!

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Not directly as a result of time travelling itself, but the radiation thingabtechnobobby that was doing it.

And Liam, it was Captain Brax-thingy, actually...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Maybe succeptibility to temporal psychosis depends upon the person, how many times they travel, how far, how quick the intervals between trips are, &c....

Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

Or possibly the syndrome was only discovered post 26th century - and some people in the 23rd/24th century got lucky (although it does explain away some bad writing...)

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Some? How many people have we seen in Trek that have time travelled, and not gotten temporal psychosis. And how many have we seen who have? Eh?

Regarding O'Brien: Sure, "our" O'Brien died. But hadn't the O'Brien who replaced him also travelled in time? Or was our O'Brien the only one time-jumping?

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