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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

Over the recent weeks i thought about the concept for Series 5 being a prequel and i must say i come to the conclusion... i really don't like it a bit!

Maybe i'm a little afraid of the StarWars Episode1 factor... dull story and no real surprises!

Isn't that the problem? We all know the History of the Federation, at least in written form. The real problem for such a series is not to bore the fans with already known facts.

The best idea for a prequel was in my opinion the Sulu Adventure... even that it was only a fan idea.

I think it is again like StarWars. Who wants to know how Anakin got his powers???? I really wanted to see how Luke, Han and Leia struggle with the remaining Empire fractions.

What do you think? Is is a prequel really a good idea?

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Yes.

They need to shake up the formula: another "modern" (24th Century) Trek flying around from planet to planet like TNG or VOY won't work. Neither would a series with the same basic premise set at a later point in history. If it's set in the modern or future timeline, they need to shake it up a bit, a la' Andromeda.

This is why DS9 was so popular, IMHO: it really WASN'T the same old, same old, while VOY was TNG Seasons 8 - 14.

A Prequel is a GREAT idea.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

No, it's not.

And the Star Wars thing is a bad example. I'd much rather see Anakin's fall from grace than watch Luke, Han and Leia run around after the remains of the bad guys that they defeated in the films. Besides, if you want that, you've got the books.

(BTW, I'm not saying that Episode 1 was good. I'm saying to could have been good.)

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Posted by Nemesis (Member # 255) on :

Ok ok i concur!
My example is a bad one, and for the books i can only say: Thrawn rules!
Anakins fall from grace could be most likely shown in one Episode alone... not in 3.

But before we go too much into StarWars,
on most of the websites i noticed strong feelings for and against the prequel idea. Personly i can say i do not like the idea, on the way of possible story ongoing and the new upcoming designs... and why
is the name of the new ship again "Enterprise"?
Talking to friends of mine, all of them were deeply disappointed by Paramounts new idea.

But lets get back to your opinions!

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

way by the praetors cloak is the name of the new ship again Enterprise?

Did you mean WHY? Well, because Paramount told Berman & Co. in no uncertain terms that the new series would only be green-lighted if the ship was the Enterprise. When you think of it, the Enterprise is the basis of Star Trek. DS9 and VOY have been exceptions. You'll never see another Trek series set on another Starship Voyager, but I suspect that there will be more Star Trek spinoffs in the decades to come, and they will feature some new version of the beloved Enterprise ...

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Whether they do a prequel or a sequel doesn't make much difference to me. It's like Jeff said, it need to be a totally different idea, not just more seasons of TNG...

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Posted by Wes (Member # 212) on :

Well, from what I hear its gonna deal with a vulcan/human relationship after 'First Contact'. I'm thinking this might be a good story. This ship being named 'Enterprise' can be a result of the Enterprise-E interfering with that timeline, perhaps someone in the 2070's (who knows about the Enterprise-E's help with Cocrane's warp flight) had a hand in naming the new ship? If thats the case, it would be safe to assume April/Pike/Kirk's Enterprise was named after that ship (which the Ent-E was named after). Got to love causality loops.

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Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :

Yeah, I'm already getting rather dizzy!

I don't care what they come up with, as long as it meets my expectations. (And they are quite high).

I wouldn't mind seeing more seasons of TNG --- at least that's what I thought in 1994. Having seen Voyager, I completely agree - no more of that, thanks a lot.

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Posted by Soontir_Fel on :

When I first heard about the prequal series, I was kinda hoping for the Romulan Wars. The series could open up in the middle or end of them, and then the UFP could start up and we'd see the first years of its existence. Example:

Season 1 Romulan War
Season 2 Romulan War
Season 3 Romulan Wars End
Season 4 UFP/UESPA(United Earth Space Probe Agency) born
Season 5 Problem Years/Usual Season Stuff
Season 6 Problem Years/Usual Season Stuff
Season 7 Problem Years/Usual Season Stuff

I thought something like this would kinda interesting. Romulans and Humans going at it like the DS9 War. This would literally would have been the 'Birht of the Federation.'

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

I once started to write a story in which that old Enterprise seen in TMP was Cochrane's second warp-ship, built w/ help from the Vulcans, and named "Enterprise" for reasons he and Sloane would never tell anyone (obviously, named after the E-E).

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

One thing I still don't understand is why the space ship Enterprise seen on the wall in 'The Motion Picture' does not have warp nacelles, while the Phoenix has (and also a certain probe has them as well...)

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

It's possible that it might just have been an interplanetary ship, not needing warp nacelles.

Of course, there's also no reason to assume that that Enterprise was built *after* the Phoenix. It could have been built at any time in the Star Trek universe from 1990 to 2060.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Actually, I figured that ring around it was the warp "nacelle", à la the "annular" warp engine on the T'Pau...

Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :

I am not sure if anyone else has brought this up in the many other prequel threads, but there is another justification for using an Enterprise in an early Federation series--the symbol. Using an Enterprise provides an easy excuse for using the old delta (assuming that the symbols stay with the ship names).

If you ask me, the (Starfleet) symbol is much more important than even the name Enterprise in tying a new and different series (whether in the past, present, or future) to the rest of the franchise. It seems like a rather stupid trivial thing, but I cannot imagine a Star Trek show without it.