Kirk: Mankind has no need for gods. We find the one quite adequate.
Posted by pIn'a' Sov (Member # 293) on :
Wasn�t that Sinclair? Ooops, wrong universe Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Now here's my question:
Was Kirk (Roddenberry) being reverent - or did he really mean that we find the one MORE than adequate.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Wasn't Rodenberry extremely anti-God anyway?
Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
Yes, because he was an agnostic athiest liberal.
Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
Are you being sarcastic Jeff? Was he really anti-God/THAT anti-God? Is it even possible to be an atheist and agnostic at the same time? I now a lot of religious people that like Star Trek and if pressed would definetely argue that Trek was pro-religious (which I absolutely don't see).
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Nope, you can't possibly be agnostic and athiestic at the same time. I'm the former. As an agnostic (one who has no knowledge of God/gods/afterlife and admits it freely), how could I also state categorically that there is no God? I just admited that I don't know.
[Agnostic translates as intellectually honest + reasonably intelligent]
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
Kirk made a religious statement yes, though not anti-religion as such, but in regards to ancient polytheism - ie the pagan belief of multiple Gods. It was perfectly pertinent to the episode, but TOS was always prolific at making statements.
Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
Nope, you can't possibly be agnostic and athiestic at the same time. I'm the former. As an agnostic (one who has no knowledge of God/gods/afterlife and admits it freely), how could I also state categorically that there is no God? I just admited that I don't know.
Yup, thought so. I was going to explain how I knew that but it would've been a red herring. But I swear - I knew that.
but TOS was always prolific at making statements.
Um...ya, 'prolific' is the right word.
Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
All I meant was ...
Whenever a fundie calls someone a liberal, they always seem to add "god-hating athiest" to the front of it. Lot of wierdos on the net. Even one here on Flare
Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :
*Looks around*
Where?
Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
I know it's easier to pronounce it 'ie' but it really is "atheist", guys.
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
I'm a dyslexic atheist, I don't believe that there's a Dog.
Posted by Obi Juan (Member # 90) on :
