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Wasn�t that Sinclair? Ooops, wrong universe
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Are you being sarcastic Jeff? Was he really anti-God/THAT anti-God? Is it even possible to be an atheist and agnostic at the same time? I now a lot of religious people that like Star Trek and if pressed would definetely argue that Trek was pro-religious (which I absolutely don't see).
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Nope, you can't possibly be agnostic and athiestic at the same time. I'm the former. As an agnostic (one who has no knowledge of God/gods/afterlife and admits it freely), how could I also state categorically that there is no God? I just admited that I don't know.
[Agnostic translates as intellectually honest + reasonably intelligent]
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Kirk made a religious statement yes, though not anti-religion as such, but in regards to ancient polytheism - ie the pagan belief of multiple Gods. It was perfectly pertinent to the episode, but TOS was always prolific at making statements.
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Nope, you can't possibly be agnostic and athiestic at the same time. I'm the former. As an agnostic (one who has no knowledge of God/gods/afterlife and admits it freely), how could I also state categorically that there is no God? I just admited that I don't know.
Yup, thought so. I was going to explain how I knew that but it would've been a red herring. But I swear - I knew that.
but TOS was always prolific at making statements.
Um...ya, 'prolific' is the right word.
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Whenever a fundie calls someone a liberal, they always seem to add "god-hating athiest" to the front of it. Lot of wierdos on the net. Even one here on Flare
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-------------------- "Existence is random. Has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it too long. No meaning save what we choose to impose. This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It?s us. Only us." Rorschach
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