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quote: Stewart Talks Nemesis Aliens Patrick Stewart, who reprises the role of Capt. Jean-Luc Picard in the upcoming Star Trek: Nemesis movie, told TV Guide Online to expect some startling new aliens in the 10th Trek film. "Romulus has a sister planet called—of course, as you'd expect—Remus," Stewart told the site. "So you're going to meet the inhabitants of that planet, the Remans, who are quite unlike anything you've seen before."
Stewart added, "I think they might be the most successful aliens [makeup designer] Michael Westmore has ever produced. I even include the Borg in saying this. He's brought an alien race to life in an entirely convincing way. There's something very novel and unique in their design. They're imposing and sinister in a very different way from the Borg."
Nemesis also features other enticements, Stewart said. "There is romance, and there is also sex, but Picard is not involved in either," he said. Stewart added that he won't have a producer credit on this film, as he has on previous Trek movies. "Brent Spiner [Data] took my role this time, and he worked with [producer] Rick Berman and [writer] John Logan on the story," he said. "It's been a great thing for us to have a non-Star Trek writer. Logan [Gladiator] is a fine writer, but also a big fan of the TV series. He remembers the names of the episodes and so forth!" Nemesis opens in December.
Aren't the Romulans and the Remuns both supposed to be from Vulcan, and shouldn't they be Vulcanoid?
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Well, I don't think it's ever really been covered on screen. For all we know, the Romulans could've conquered the Remans when they moved in.
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
True enough. I don't really recall hearing the other planet mentioned outside of TOS.
I always like to include a link to the front page of ezine I've quoted.
[ April 19, 2002, 12:05: Message edited by: Kosh ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Did you just attempt to link to an e-mail?
And I think the reason everyone's assumed that Remus was populated simply by more Romulans is because both planets are supposed to be Romulan "homeworlds". I guess that's just another thing we'll have to file under "someone thought it was true, so they said it on screen, but they were wrong".
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Uh, from the pictures I saw, the Remans looked like fucked-up muta-Vulcans, but Vulcans nonetheless.
Posted by The Apocalypse (Member # 633) on :
Just ignore the technicalities, especially the small ones, oids oids oids, big whoop... Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
It would seem that the Remans were a native race whom the Romulans conquered and used as slaves in the Dilithium mines. Or so the script would imply. They don't appear to be intended as some genetic variation on the Vulcan/Romulan species. They're a separate race. Since they evolved on Remus where there is always near-total darkness, they are well-adapted to see and live in the dark and are highly sensitive to light. The script describes them as "vampiric" and "bearing a striking resemblence to the original Noferatu."
Yes, I couldn't resist the temptation any longer. I read the damned script. I just couldn't wait all the way till December...
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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Well, the current timeline gives the Romulans 2000 years to mutate into Remans if that's what happened. It won't be your regular evolutionary change, not if a Vulcanoid generation is 50 years and thus only about 40 generations will pass... But the phenotype could quite plausibly change into "vampiric" even if the genotype doesn't. Or the Remans could have been generically modified to be better mining slaves.
From the few photos I've seen, the Remans don't differ from Vulcans/Romulans more than your average "caveman" or "wildman" differs from regular hero humans in a typical fantasy movie...
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Really?
Well, I suppose there is a *slight* resemblance. But, every reference in the script implies they are two separate races. (No, it doesn't state this specifically, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO implication that the Remans are decended from the Romulans.)
-MMoM Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
although cross breeding with Remans might explain where the Romulans got funny foreheads and rounder ears (resembling those of the Remans)
Posted by Kosh (Member # 167) on :
From that picture I think they look more like the Drazi then they do the Vulcans.
[ April 19, 2002, 09:21: Message edited by: Kosh ]
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I don't see the least bit of resemblance aside from the fact that their ears are pointed. And I doubt Vulcans were the only race to evolve pointy ears (e.g. the "Vulcanoid" Mintakans).
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Tim: Evidently you missed the Romulanoid V-ridges on the brow.
Shave a Romulan's head and beat them with an ugly stick and I think you'd get something a bit like what's in the picture.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, okay. Maybe the generic 'V' shape is sort of like the Romulan ridges. But the incredible proliferation of ridges among Trek aliens causes that to not necessarily mean much.
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