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Posted by Saboc on :

Do you think that they will keep lieutenant Torres, commander Chakotay, and ensign Paris when Voyager gets back? I mean it would be very depressing to see Torres being put in the brig and Chakotay gets court-martialed and stuff. Right?

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

My guess is charges will be dropped.

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Posted by grb on :

Well I was thinking that at first the Maquis crew members would be considered as heros for fighting aginst the cardassians, who are now porbabaly rather hated by many federation citizens (remember O'Brien;s feelings towards cardassians). But I think starfleet woulnd't be to happy with a convict con offcier, and a maquis XO and cheif engineer. They might might demote paris to the night shift, and replce chakotay and torres with starfleet offciers, at least immediately after Voyager gets back. Perhaps eventually, chakotay, paris, and torres will prove their worth, and get back to their former positions.

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

Starfleet can insist, but if Janeway's still alive at the end she'll convince Starfleet that it's this crew that she wants and none other. She did get Tom Paris onto Voyager, despite his being a convict didn't she?

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

But why would they want to stay together on Voyager?

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Posted by Lt. Tom on :

grb: Although Paris has a pretty spotty record, he's served his time. The whole reason he signed on Voyager was to help Janeway track down the Maquis in exchange for early release from New Zealand.

Elim: For the movie deal? =P

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Depends on the character. Paris has basically reinvented himself on Voyager, and I don't see him leaving the ship if he has a chance to stay. On the other hand, Torres strikes me as someone who enjoys her job, but probably wouldn't see any overriding need to stay in Starfleet. Which could lead to all sorts of conflicts regarding their relationship. But I digress.

Chakotay would probably want to stay in Starfleet. It seems the only reason he left was because of the Maquis, which is no longer an issue. As for the rest of them...we haven't really seen enough of them to know, but I'd lean towards the majority going back to their former civilian lives.

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Well, I just recently saw "Faces" again (terrible episode, BTW), and, when Terran-B'Elanna is talking to Klingon-B'Elanna, she seems rather bitter about having not made it through SF Academy. Apparently, she isn't terribly opposed to the idea of being a SF officer.

And this may be a moot point. If they don't do a Voyager movie, they'll probably never even address the issue of whether the crew stays together or not.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

I was thinking that after Voyager returns to the Alpha Quad, they were gonna throw a big party along with some private ones...

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Posted by Alshrim Dax (Member # 258) on :

In light of the fact that all maquis personelle have been working like SF officers for the last 6 years.. I'd imagine they'll get a full pardon..

Not only that... The Maquis is done with !!

I think they'd stay on as Janeway's crew of Voyager.. after a good Voyager Refit !! Or not.. Maybe they'll refit all the other ships in SF with the modifications made on Voyager !! ... Quite a twist there..

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

Michael, what are you talking about anyway? I wouldn't want to picture Chakotay and Janeway have their own private party when Voyager get's back to Earth. Now, Paris and Torres's private party would be interesting, maybe the Klingon pain sticks would appear again...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Well, since Chakotay's ship had at least two spies aboard (Tuvok and Seska), maybe all the other Maquis will claim to have been spying for various groups, and that they weren't really Maquis. :-)

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Actually, I would love to see a Chakotay and Torres moment where they see what has happened to Cardassia in the wake of the Dominion War. This would give all of us a chance to see what has happened too, since it seems unlikely we ever will any other way.

I can see some Maquis wondering what to do now that Cardassia is no longer very much of a threat to anyone seeing as how are basically a devastated people and the inhabitants of the DMZ are basically all not people anymore.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

I saw an inteview with Robert Picardo (EMH - 'The Doctor') and he said that the seventh season was the last and that there might be Voyager movies (plural!)
ahead. Let's hope they make the return a grand finale.

I think it would be quite a disapointment when the Maquis are immediately arrested.

"Welcome back, Captain."

"Arrest those Maquis. Whoaa! .. A Borg.. Kill her! Deactivate EMH and dump that Talaxian guy as well!"

"So Captain, where were we?"

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

Hey, I don't think that the security officers would be that trigger happy to shoot Seven especially in her outfits...

Neelix on the other hand, his cooking could get him the death penalty.

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Posted by Obese Penguin (Member # 271) on :

I think that Chakotay and Torres will be pardoned , Torres will probobley be given a position at SF Engineering so that she can work on all those cool gadgets Voyager brought back from the Delta Quad like the Quantum Slipstream drive , the Docs Mobile Emitter and stuff .

Chakotay might get his own command but he will most likley stay with Janeway if Voyager is sent back out.

Seven will probobley be studied for a while then she will try to find some of the Hanson Family maybe a Cousin or somthing .

I think the Doc will be given a starfleet commission rank Lt or Ltcmdr , he will probobley be installed on all SF ships with the exception of his memories and stuff those will be his and his alone .

Kim better get a promo or he will probobley go postal .

Tuvok might take over for Chakotay as XO of VOY if he leaves the ship or is givin his own command

Neelix if he isnt shot and killed by the fashion police will stay on Voyager .

Janeway will be promoted to Admiral or Commdore , Voyager will probabley be her flagship .

or maybe while on the way back they get into another wormhole and they get sent back to the delta Quadrent like and it could be like Gulligans Island in space :-)

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Posted by Lt. Tom on :

I don't think the former Maquis crew will receive any sort of disciplinary action--I don't think the issue will even be raised. I'd imagine some would leave Starfleet, and those that stayed would be given regular commissions.

Regarding Seven: Starfleet's more likely to study the Doc's summer line than anything else. I don't think Seven would take too kindly to being studied, and between Doc's records and Cargo Bay 2 Starfleet will have more info than it knows what to do with.

While I've hoped for the Doc to get a commission for a while, I don't think Starfleet is going to start giving rank to sentient holograms until they know what happened to make the Doc the way he is. Lewis Zimmerman is probably going to get to spend some quality time with the Doc's logs at the very least.

No comment about Kim.

Yes, if Chakotay left Voyager, Tuvok would be next in line for the XO slot, seeing as he's second officer and all.

IMHO, Neelix would be about useless when Voyager gets back home. He gave out as a guide a long time ago, and once Voyager's in Federation space replicator reserves won't really be an issue. I'd like to see him open up a chain of restaurants on, say, Vulcan. They'll love him there.

I'd imagine Janeway would remain a captain and CO of Voyager. If there's a Voyager movie, she'll be assigned a mission that requires her "unique abilities", namely that of creating shuttlecraft and photorps out of thin air.

You know, it's been at least a year since I've heard someone refer to VOY as "Gilligan's island in space". I can't say I've missed it.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

In regards to Seven, it seems unlikely that they could find out anything new from studying her that they haven't already learned from Locutus, and all the drones brought back from First Contact.

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

I'm sure that Starfleet Medical would make some excuse to *examine* her...

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Posted by Saboc on :

Do you think that Seven of Nine will remain in StarFleet? I'd like to see Seven as an ensign or probably a lieutenant. I mean she is fluent in StarFleet's protocols and stuff....right?
Kim has been an ensign for wayyyy to long. Though I'm not crazy about the Kim character, but I think he's pretty good. They should give him a promotion or something like that.
I love Tuvok. I love all Vulcans. If anyone on Voyager deserves a promotion, it is Tuvok. He has the wisdom, the age, and the knowledge. He should get promoted to commander. With all the experience and knowledge Tuvok commulated over the years, he is, in my opinions, much better than Chakotay. It is Tuvok who should be XO, not Chakotay.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Seven hardly seems like the traditional Starfleet type. She's certainly both knowledgable and capable, but does she have the innate desire to explore that is so important? Or, does she have any desire to do the more mundane Starfleet tasks, namely defending the interests of the Federation?

On the other hand, it is difficult to think of any other place in UFP society for her. I would think it will be a long time, even with lots of counseling, before she can fit in with the everyday civilian life of the 24th century.

It's an interesting legal and moral question, actually. Is Seven an adult?

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

I'm thinking that Seven would become a liason officer, a Borg specialist, or something else for the Federation. As for her being an adult, she is one both mentally and physically. She just went through an emotional trauma, a kidnapping.

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Sometimes I run
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Sometimes I'm scared of you
But all I really want is to hold you tight
Treat you right, be with you day and night
Baby all I need is time

-Britney Spears

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

I think Seven could get an interesting job with Section 31, maybe in the new series.

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Posted by Dane Simri (Member # 272) on :

I agree with Prakesh... Seven would make an excellent cross-over character for the new series, especially if it is about Section 31. (That is, as long as they didn't use her like some Ms. Gadget... "Go go Borg Personal Shield!")

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I have to disagree with Seven being an adult, mentally. Assimilation essentially froze her personality for...however long she was assimilated. Look at how she reacts to things. The blustery front of the Collective only serves to hide her emotional extremes. When she's angry, she throws what amount to Borg tantrums. (Though in a very cool and controlled manner...inherited from the Collective, I'd imagine.)

When we do see the true Seven, her reactions are innocent and childlike. In "The Raven", for instance, when she flashes back to her assimilation.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I agree with Sol. I think the real Seven is still this innocent little girl that's so terrified of what's going on, that she relies completely on her Borg 'education'. Certainly the knowledge of thousands of species and the horrors of what she's witnesses have matured her a little at least superficially, but I think she's still trying to figure out how to cope. Look how much she seems to like Naomi. I think they will relate more and more as Seven explores her lost childhood.

Neelix may wish to try his hand at full time ambassadoring. Chakotay may go on some spiritual journey for a while, looking up some of the gravesites of his Maquis friends.

A Janeway reunion with Mark would be cool. A slap in the face and a raised knee, and off she goes =)

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Neelix=TV Chef

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Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :

I hear a spin-off calling!

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

"Cooking with Neelix: The Talaxian Gourmet" Starring Ethan Phillips as Neelix. Special appearance by Kate Mulgrew as Captain Janeway.

*cheesy Mu-zak version of the Voyager theme plays in background*

Hello everybody! Today I'll be sharing my recipe for Leeola Root Soup! Mmmm. This dish proved a particular favorite in the Delta Quad. And speaking of the Delta Quadrant, look who's dropped by to help stir the soup...Captain Janeway....

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