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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

Not watching Voyager, will someone kindly inform as to who or what "Icheb" is?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

As you neither watch it nor care to, does it matter?

Some rather dated spoilers here, but spoilers nonetheless, so preserve your eyes, ye unspoiled masses.

Icheb is a young man of indeterminate age, for reasons that will become apparent in a moment. His home planet had been attacked several times by the Borg, who had found several choice technologies there, but not enough to justify assimilating the Brunali, his species. So they just stopped by occassionally to pick up any new developments, kill or assimilate a few unlikely people and move on. Icheb happened to be picked up by the Borg as a boy. There's more to this, but let's wait a moment.

Fast forward to the latter half of season six, when Voyager comes across a very odd Borg cube. Odd because it is apparently crewed by only five drones, one of whom is the partially assimilated Icheb. All of them are children who had been in those wacky Borg maturation chambers when a virus swept through the ship, killing all of the drones aboard except for these partially assimilated children, safe inside their sealed chambers. Chambers which had malfunctioned after the disease and ejected their contents before they were done.

Suffice it to say, Voyager and crew managed to find a way to get through to these children and whisked them away before too much damage was done, though one did die, leaving four.

So, that's Icheb. Like Seven, the children were brilliant but unfocused, and rather scared. Eventually, the parent species of most of them were contacted and the children returned to some semblance of home, but Icheb was not, as it turned out that he had been engineered by the Brunali specifically for the purpose of being assimilated and passing on the disease that disabled that cube. Rather than let him be re-assimilated when his parents knocked him out and sent him back to the Collective on a ship, Voyager picked him up, and he has since then become part of the crew, happily studying stars and developing unhealthy crushes on Lieutenant Torres. The end.

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :

To protect me and my children, we need potential spoiler space...

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Icheb is one of the four Borg children that the Voyager crew picked up in Season 6. A virus wiped out all of the adult Borg, leaving 5 Borg kids. The lead Borg kid was a major a-hole and was promptly killed by the end of the episode. Icheb and the 3 others were taken in by Voyager, deassimilated, and forced to live with 7 of 9 as their caretaker.

In Season 7, all but Icheb are returned to their families. Icheb found his last season, but his parents sent him to the Borg in the first place. Icheb is a late teenager (around 16 to 20, I'd guess) and has a "thing" for 7 of 9 (I think) and Torres.

Or, you can just read Sol's post.
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ICQ Conversation From January 23, 2001.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Well, at least he likes older women...is that good for someone with his history?

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :

I would point out that there were in fact SIX Borg children aboard the cube. There was also an infant that was beamed to the sickbay on Voyager, because it would have died otherwise. We never heard from it again.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Spoilers...
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Let's see...there were the twin boys (that's two), the girl (that's 3), Icheb (4), the kid who was in charge on the cube (that's 5)...who was the sixth? The one who couldn't talk right at first? Or was that Icheb?

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Posted by Epoch (Member # 136) on :

Omega both brought up the sixth child and also explained who it is. The sixth child was the infant that started to die due to a malfunction in its maturation chamber so it was beamed to voyager never to be heard from again. 1 Icheb 2&3 the twins 4 the girl 5 the older boy that died 6 the infant

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

He said there were six children...also an infant. I took that to mean an infant in addition to the sixth child, but I guess the second sentance could be explaining the first rather than adding to it. My mistake.

Posted by DARKSTAR on :

Icheb
Age:18 yrs old
Age when assimilated:8
Posistion of Homeworld:30000+ light years from Earth
10000 light year from Galactic core
4000 light years from Delta/Beta Quadrant border
45000 light years from Ocampa
20000 light years from Borg space
22000 light years from Gamma/Delta Quadrant Border
50000+ light years form Bajoran Wormhole exit in the Gamma Quadrant

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Icheb was in a maturation chamber that had not fully developed him yet. He's probably only a few months older chronologically than he was when he was assimilated.

Don't those mat. chambers accelerate the growth of young drones?

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Yes. Which is why I mentioned he was of indeterminate age. He's obviously intended to be in the 18ish age range, though. I'm not clear how old Seven is supposed to be either, biologically or otherwise. (It's Jeri Ryan's birthday today, you know. Not that that has any relavance whatsoever.)

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

How old is Jeri Ryan now then? Anyway, wasn't Annika Hansen assimilated when she was 8? And how long did she stay in the Borg Collective?

And did anyone see part of the preview for the next episode of Voyager with Seven in a silk red dress licking some guy's finger?

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Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Jeri Ryan is 33. It was her birthday yesterday, in fact.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Sol: I was refering to Darkstar's post citing the difference between his age at assimilation and his current age. I simply meant that there probably isn't that much of a difference. If some dialouge stated that he was 8 when he was assimilated, then he's probably 9 at most even though he looks to be 18.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Uh...yes. I know.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Excuse me for asking, and I really hope I'm not insulting anyone, and if I am, I apologize in advance, but, Darkstar, are you a computer of some sort? You give facts and information as though giving statistical analysis, and as far as I can tell, have never used pronouns or a conversational tone of writing. It's very good for the singular release of information, but not very ... for lack of a better word ... warm. I know this is quite a bit off topic and I apologize if this was a bit biting, but I'm just curious as to your style of posting.

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Computers, for the most part, are based on concepts of accuracy, consistency and reproducible data. Unless running Windows, of course.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Ah, thank you. I sense an undercurrent of something I will not elucidate for fear of having to retract several statements.

Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

Good idea, I think.
And 7 could be 13 for all we know, right? She acted somtimes like she has that mental age at first, then has slowly matured since then to this point.

Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

Well, we know she was assimilated when she was 6, right? So, in "Scorpion," she said that "this body was assimilated 18 years ago. It ceased to be human at that time."
So, that means she was 24 in the 4th season, so she's 27 now.

Posted by Teelie (Member # 280) on :

I do remember that now, very vaguely. Barely... cursed memory.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

She may actually be as old as she looks, but she may have looked that way for a long time. The Borg probably matured her in a chamber when they assimilated her. She may only be 27 but she's probably been an adult for most of that time.

Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

Did they ever mature her! Phew...

PS - SHE'S VERY VERY SEXY!

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Yah. Keep saying that the Borg don't have any interest in personal relationships.

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Posted by MC Infinity (Member # 531) on :

hello everybody! *dr.nick voice from the simpsons*
i'm new here, and i came here cuz i wasn't happy with the messageboard i posted at before, and other ones were way too big for me to keep up with

icheb is definitely not the most popular person in voyager, infact, most people i know want to see him get killed off.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

You need to meet more people. Welcome to Flare.

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