We all have seen all of the shuttles that Voyager has lost (and made up for) and we have seen who has crashed or destroyed most of them. Commander Cakotay. Frankly, I am surprised that Chakotay hasn't crashed and destroyed Voyager when he has been given the chance to pilot and/or land Voyager itsself (like in "Demon", about 20 minutes into the episode).
quote:Fate protects fools, little children, and ships named Enterprise.-Commander William Riker
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Well, it's not like there weren't any distractions. I mean, he wasn't practicing hopscotch in the aft compartment as the shuttle flew into a cliff. It be like saying a guy in a car who got forced off the road by a semi is a bad driver.
Aliens boarding. People shooting. Energy fields...dampening. Seven of Nine just standing there. All things that would give even the best of pilots difficulty.
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
It's not like Seven was in a shuttle with Chakotay all the time...just that everytime she was with him in one things kinda went south.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I'm just saying she would definitely be a distraction. And that's one of the time's that I remember a Chuckles shuttle getting totaled. When they hit that energy barrier.
But I was mostly just joking. Getting shot at by an alien or disabled by an energy field or something is hardly evidence of bad piloting.
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
good pilots don't get shot. good pilots don't run into energy thingies. they're supposed to be aware of thier surroundings.
Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
Almost every time we see them, their going through an anomaly, getting shot at, or some other obstacle to uneventful flying. How often does Paris get out of those w/o killing a shuttle unlike Chakotey?
[My grammer sucks lately, I must be close to the surface of the moon. Gene Cernan would be proud.]
[ August 15, 2001: Message edited by: Stingray ]
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
Let me see, Voyager lost several Type-9's, a few Type-8's and Type-6's, and then the Delta Flyer became target practice. I'd say it's like a curse.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Good pilots don't get shot? Well, be sure to tell that to every Naval Aviator you meet.
No, Chakotay is not the brilliant, God-like pilot that Paris is. I don't believe he's supposed to be. But it's not like he's reckless or stupid.
Is this just general Chakotay-bashing. It's fun every once in a while, but his piloting skills aren't what I would pick on
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
I dunno, I think Mr. Crusher has a thing against first officers. Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
He just may bring up Riker's piloting records along with Kira's next time then.
Posted by Jack_Crusher (Member # 696) on :
I have nothing against first officers, and I think Riker is a damn good, attentive shuttle pilot, when he has flown shuttles, that is. As for Kira, I have not seen that many DS9 episodes, so I have not seen her fly a shuttle. But Chakotay, with all the shuttles that he has flown, he's either crashed them, or he's heavily damaged them so much, that sometimes I believe he has had to have had Voyager do an emergency transport. He is the reason that we Trek fans are really beginning to ask "where the hell is Voyager getting those new Star Fleet shuttles from?" I wonder if the Flier is Chakotay-proof?...
quote:They invade our space. We fall back. They assimilate entire worlds. And we fall back. They destroy our ships, and we fall back. The LINE SHALL BE DRAWN HERE! -Capt. Jean Luc Picard, ST: First Contact
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
quote: is the reason that we Trek fans are really beginning to ask "where the hell is Voyager getting those new Star Fleet shuttles from?"
Timely criticism.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
"They destroy our ships, and we fall back."
That wasn't in the dialouge.
Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
Would somebody PLEASE show this guy how to make a real sig?
