Is there any news on a Voyager Companion? I liked the DS9 one a lot, and I'm just wondering if they'll do one for Voyager.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Last I heard, Sternbach wanted to do one, but Pocket Books said no. . .
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
If they do a companion, I hope the show's writers and producers honestly assess what was good and bad about each episode and about the show. I'm reading the DS9 companion now, and it's nice to know they don't think everything was great, but just misunderstood by the great unwashed public. Of course, the creative fatigue that seems to have overcome Voyager might be depressing to read about.
Posted by The Defiant (Member # 818) on :
Voyager had good moments, but a lot of the stories were a rehash of stuff in TNG and TOS and DS9. In others writers were just lazy. And some junk couldn't be considered Star Trek. I'd just like to hear about the Intrepid Class and Voyager, and if it talked about how many actors considered leaving and how much they hated the scripts. You know why Harry wasn't promoted? It was because Garrett Wang had a fight with B&B and that was there way of punishing him, keeping him and Ensign and all. See, if you just think and make up junk everything could be explained.
[ May 27, 2002, 19:36: Message edited by: The Defiant ]
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
WTF are you talking about? Reply to people either in the particular thread, or through PM.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Lee, I think you're thinking of Sternbach's proposed Voyager tech manual. The companions were usually written by non-tech people, as befits their nature.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
There's indeed one in the works.
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
Oh, yeah. Oops. It was the "Companion" bit that threw me, I'm still stuck back in the days when they called them "Compendiums."
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Looks like we'll have to wait until March 2003. Didn't the DS9 Companion come out in 2000, just a year after the actual series ended?
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
No, I'm pretty certain it came out in early 2001. At least that's when I got mine, and it was fairly new then. . .
Posted by Joe Siegler (Member # 838) on :
I was always hoping they'd do one for Voyager in the same way they did the DS9 one.
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Well, let me be the first to say, "Welcome to the forums, Joe" So post your views and add to the threads. Start some yourself if you wish. Don't come off like idiots like a few other newbies have and try to have fun. And the threads often go off topic, so just go with the flow and don't get frustrated. You can steer it back on topic if you like, or like I said, just go with the flow instead.
Posted by iam2xtreme (Member # 836) on :
the ds9 companion was excellent, the best part being the art from john eaves that it showcased. unfortunately the voyager one is being wrote by someone else.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Well, just so long as its being wrote and not written, we should be okay.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
why are we attracting so many newbies all of a sudden?
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
It's just that time of year.
Lock and load. Shoot to kill.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
online pheromones
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Because we are good? And not a collection of mouth-breathing elitist geeks who huddle around their pristine collection of commerative editions of children's toys, our fetid breath fogging over our too-thick glasses as we applaud each other for being so terribly cool that we don't need to bother with other human beings at all?
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
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Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
Or post threads about 'Oh, wow. _insert name here_ is better than I thought' for every fuckin episode/movie/Fanfic/ect. thing?
Sorry. This is what I mean^
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
BWC, why are you even replying to yourself with your own quote and not even adding anything new or otherwise correcting something? Posted by Jack_Crusher (Member # 696) on :
Let's just pray to whatever diety that they don't release a VOY tech manual that would be filled with more confusing and unnecessary treknobabble than the DS9 tech manual articles on replicators and the TNG tech manula on tranporters.
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Dunno. I doubt we need another Tech manual - there wasn't that much new tech in Voyager, seeing that Ent-D was still up and running when she left the A Quadrant.
Besides, there were so many holes in the DS9 TM.
And it would probably open a whole new genre in the eyes of TPTB. Can you imagine: - Prometheus TM (comes in 3 detachable chapters...) - Dauntless TM (forgery) - Nova TM (verrrry small book) - They'd be pumping them out each and every episode - for any new ship - or alien race.
Of course, I'm a fine one to talk with all of MY projects...
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I believe Sternbach's concept for the Voyager "tech manual" was along the lines of a hastily written manual for dealing with Voyager's specific concerns, engineering and otherwise, and would probably have been quite interesting.
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
That I could handle - say a glossy magazine with high end graphics on technology they've reverse-engineered, or adapted - plus layout of the specific vessel.
Hell, that I could handle...
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I think it was still going to be a nice thick trade paperback, though.
Well, probably. As I recall these were just some ideas Sternbach threw out on his late, lamented Paramount newsgroup.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: And not a collection of mouth-breathing elitist geeks who huddle around their pristine collection of commerative editions of children's toys...
Hey! They're not pristine!
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Interesting sideline here... (to me anyway).
The first time I ran into the word "pristine" was in a Diane Duane ST novel, and was to describe the hull of the Enterprise.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Good. That answers my question finally...but I am a bit surprised about the new TNG Companion. I guess they can make it thicker and more detailed.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Hey.. they're going to bring the Kreetassans back. Hooray for interseries continuity!
And I really hope Westmore gets his Tellarites. I think the chances are fairly high for Tellarites to show up someday. They probably didn't want to spoil the Andorians comeback in the first season, so I'm hoping for some snouts this season.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Hmmm, what about a Tiburon? Antosian (whom Garth of Izar learnt his shapeshifting abilities from?)
Tholians (but they'd probably ruin them - I really wanted DS9 to deal with them only.
Arcturian Clones?
Saurians?
Altarians?
But hey, what about Enterprise inventing it's ONLY little pocket of the universe!?!
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
It can't have two pockets? Or maybe a knapsack of some sort?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
What about a race like those little midgets that we saw in "Journey to Babel"? Did we even get a name for that species?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
No.
Personally, I've been fond of the idea that they are the council members for the First Federation, recently having joined the UFP. And they paint their skin gold as a diplomatic tradition. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I finally received my copy of the Wrath of Khan DVD, and there's a little leaflet in there with advertisements for some of the different Trek references. There's a prominent line that says, "Look for The Star Trek: Voyager Companion -- available in 2003." So it seems that they really are going ahead with this after all.
Perhaps there will be some "interesting" interviews/commentaries from Braga regarding some of the show's most excellent hours, like "Threshold" and "Spirit Folk." The thing I liked most about the DS9 Companion was the fact that many of the writers admitted that they screwed up in various episodes. Especially with ones like "Let He Who Is Without Sin" and "Profit and Lace."
Time will tell...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
"Profit & Lace" in one hand, "Meridian" in the other.
And the one that smells most of faeces is..."Meridian".
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Tholians (but they'd probably ruin them - I really wanted DS9 to deal with them only.
Well they mentioned Tholia in Broken Bow, so it could be on the producers' minds.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Yes, Profit and Lace good... Meridian -> not great
Let He... has it's good and bad moments... The Muse -> has generally bad moments.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
You are not making a good case for your respective nations being spared the cleansing kiss of nuclear fire. Good moments? Maybe the fade to end credits. I really appreciated that part.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
You live in a country full of people who have "II" and "III" after their names despite the fact that they are not actually royalty.
Between that and your middle name, I think we have a winner in the "they must burn" competition.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
So, how do you tell the difference between three family members w/ the same name? Call them "senior", "junior", and "junior junior"?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Quite frankly, if you've got to the third generation and still haven't managed to think up a new name, then you should really start marrying outside of your own family tree.
We possess originality enough to give our children different first names.
But that's just our crazy socialist ways.
Posted by ThoughtPyminal (Member # 480) on :
quote: You live in a country full of people who have "II" and "III" after their names despite the fact that they are not actually royalty.
Eh? Where is this?
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: No.
Personally, I've been fond of the idea that they are the council members for the First Federation, recently having joined the UFP. And they paint their skin gold as a diplomatic tradition. Yeah, that's the ticket.
that's as good a theory as any.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Originally posted by Free ThoughtCrime America:
quote: Eh? Where is this?
I hope you are being sarcastic. If not, it's the US of course. Just watch the credits in a movie or look in the phone book. It looks so silly, "George Smith III", "Anna Hill IV" and so on. Haven't seen that anywhere else. But I guess it's just another way of Americans showing the rest of the world: "Hey look, we are better than you because we are sooo special."
We who happen to be so unlucky that we are not blessed with the holy right to call ourselves US citizens could reply "You are just not creative enough to think of a new name for your offspring!"
And don't get me wrong. I don't have hard feelings towards Americans in general. But at the moment I can't help but feel a little discomforted (and even angry) because of how the U.S. are behaving. I think you know what I am talking about. Thank G.W.B for that.
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
Hey, WE'RE not the country whose allowing their weapons-grade uranium to be smuggled into Iraq.
Now let's all settle down and go back to talking about the V'Ger Companion before this gets sent to the Flameboard.
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
Well, since Unseen Frontier's probably been cancelled (sigh), it looks like this is the only Star Trek book I'll be buying for a while. That is, if this one is not cancelled.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Ok, sorry, my comments might have been quite harsh. Will keep my critisisms to myself in the future.
About the Voy Companion. That's not really a book I care about. But not to publish U.F. is a real shame. They should scrap some of those dreadfully boring novels instead. U.F. could become a real smash. But as happens so often we will never get to see it - at least not in this life...
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