Has anyone heard what class vessel Riker's USS Titan is going to be? All I can seem to find is that he accepts command and Troi (or I guess Troi-Riker) transfers to the ship with him. Thanks, Todd
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
You only found those two bits because that is all the information in the script, our only source.
Posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain (Member # 709) on :
Yeah, it's doubtful the ship will even be shown according to some versions of the script.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain: Yeah, it's doubtful the ship will even be shown according to some versions of the script.
Are you saying people have seen multiple versions of the script? To my knowledge, there's only ever been ONE that members of the public have been able to read. According to THAT version, the Titan is not required to make an appearance in the film, but that wouldn't stop the VFX people from showing it in an exterior shot or the Art Dept from showing it on a computer display.
I would be most eager to learn about these "versions" of the script that the good Captain Mike speaks of...
-MMoM Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Beats me. However, I'm guessing that it can't be a new ship.. One of the few things that the Trek producers have been careful about with their ships is not to upstage the lead vessel with something that could potentially out-cool her, except when the story demands it (read: Excelsior, Prometheus, etc.). With the arguable exception of the Akira, they tend to stick to this rule.
Besides, movie budget or no, I doubt that the guys would spend the cash to create a new ship design for one or two shots, regardless of the probability of its future use in the franchise. *IF* we see the Titan, my money's on another Sovereign (unlikely) or a shiny new Galaxy (more likely). Personally, I'd like to see the latter.
Mark
Posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain (Member # 709) on :
Will would appreciate that, since he always wanted the E for his own.
However, if there was a VFX sequence, i think a Galaxy would dwarf the longer, but less voluminous Sovereign. Basically, the producers would let the ship they wrecked and consider yesterday's news show up their new anorexic E-E. besides, they have a low opinion of people that would make them believe if they showed a Galaxy, everyone would think it was the E-D somehow. if this movie achieves 'crossover' status (i.e. picking up an audience that isnt rabid trekkies) they might well have some confusion anyway.
I didnt see multiple versions of the script, just multiple formattings of it. barring some obvious fakes ive read, but have quite rightfully been taken down long ago.
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
I will bet one hundred million thousand monkeys that the U.S.S. Titan, if shown, is a Mirandized Sovereign, or an Akira.
One Hundred Million Thousand.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
You mean the Endeavour class finally realized? Of course it most likely would not be called Endeavour class.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
I will bet one hundred million thousand monkeys that the U.S.S. Titan, if shown, is a Mirandized Sovereign, or an Akira.
I'll see that, and raise you three hundred quatloos.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
I don't think one hundred million thousand monkeys exist, UM.
Posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain (Member # 709) on :
He done called you out!
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
I think it will be a ew ship. Isn't Riker meant to say something 'it's the most beautiful ship he's ever seen'? If so, it seems strange that such a statement would be regards to an older and very familiar starship like a Galaxy. It sounds here, if that line is correct, that this is a new design of ship. Perhaps it could be a prototype - Titan Class anyone?
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
Difficult choice, actually. It can't outcool or dwarf the E and it can't be too familiar.
The known ships that look 'good' with the Sovereign are probably the Akira, Intrepid and Defiant. Or perhaps they do something new. The Endeavour or the Goodson ship.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Given the discussion we've had, it looks increasingly likely that the film simply will not include a visual of the USS Titan. Too much thought would have to go into it... Plus, if we leave it as an unseen class, then we could open the next movie with a spiffy newish ship, a la Excelsior in TUC. Then we'd go back to the tried & true Sovereign class...
Mark
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
Now THAT would be in true TNG spirit: Talking about a new and potentially interesting ship and then not showing it...
Picard: Has the Titan left our sensor range now?
Worf: Yes, Sir. They have boldly gone where no one... Ah well, sir, you know the rest. Anyway, they are nowhere to be seen any longer.
Picard: Ok, thank you Mr Worf. Now turn the viewscreen back on!
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
It's more likely, that we see the Hemingway.
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
ROTFLBTCDICAJTTWADBSISWTRHITSBKABAYB
Rolling on the floor laughing behind the computer desk I cut a jugular throat thing while acknowledging David Bowie's super interesting stories with the right hand I try stopping but Klingons ate Billy and your Babies? I mean, really.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Rolling On The Floor Laughing, Biting The Carpet, Dancing In Circles And Jumping Through The Window Almost Dying By Smashing Into Someone Who Then Runs Horrified Into The Street Being Killed Accidentally By A Yellow Bulldozer
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
Good. David Bowie is very bad. And probably has less than interesting stories. Except those that pertain to Iman Sex.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Because she's a shape-shifter...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Riker gets a type 9 shuttlepod.
I say that riker gets a Galaxy (mabye the model with the extra phasers: like the Venture. No way will cheap-ass Paramount build a new ship when they spent all that cash on the Galaxy filming miniatures. ......or they'll use the frellin' BOP again!!!!!! Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
"No way will cheap-ass Paramount build a new ship when they spent all that cash on the Galaxy filming miniatures"
Yeah. They so won't build a new ship, especially since 98% of the Nemesis effects are going to be CGI. They'll certainly use the Galaxy Miniature. Especially since they haven't since Deep Space Nine.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
No way in hell we'll see the Titan. They'd have to come up with a new design to please everyone (do you really think they'll do a backstep and pull the Galaxy?) Most of the CGI-models are too ugly for the big screen (at least for scenes involving beautyshots. Of course you can blow up Akiras and Steamrunners of lower quality on the big screen). And besides the Sovereign, there is no Fed ship that could do the job. So they'll wait for the next movie which will feature the Titan and Captain Riker. And with the 35 million dollars they save by leaving out Data and Picard, we'll get a whole new fleet of beautiful ships.
PS: I'm much more interested in seeing the astrometry-scene which will reveal the location of Janeways taskforce (or, translated, "Many small spots with names and registries and classes and everything. Hopefully.")
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Wasn't there another design for FC that was never used? The Zandura, I think? I never cared for it, but it would be new and not so cool as to out do the Ent E.
If there is a line about it being the most beautiful ship he's ever seen, I would think it would have to be at least a new design for us... and most likely a new ship for Starfleet. Of course, the context of that line could totally change that. It could be an old Constellation and it's simply the most beautiful ship Riker has ever seen because it'll be his first command.
If they do show the ship, I'm guessing it'll be a a new design but smaller and far less cool than the Ent E, along the lines of how they used the Akira and the Scoutship. Not big players and not overly shown... but still new and attention getting.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov:
PS: I'm much more interested in seeing the astrometry-scene which will reveal the location of Janeways taskforce (or, translated, "Many small spots with names and registries and classes and everything. Hopefully.")
And this is what is wrong with Star Trek fans.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam:
quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov:
PS: I'm much more interested in seeing the astrometry-scene which will reveal the location of Janeways taskforce (or, translated, "Many small spots with names and registries and classes and everything. Hopefully.")
And this is what is wrong with Star Trek fans.
Talking about the movie as a whole, yes, it would be wrong, but we're just summarizing things we'd like to see as members of this specific forums, and this is mainly tech and new ships. When the movie's out on DVD and the analysis of those scenes begins I'll remind you. Because it wont be topics about the actors or the story but discussions about those things. I think that's one of the basic reasons why we are here. Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
When you consider that there are at least two sites dedicated to reconstructing the meager footage from BOBW, I don't think Capt. Asamov's wish is too geeky. TO make the movie perfect, we'll have to see Janeway's taskforce completely destroyed....starting with her!
If anyone has schematics for this mystery First contact ship, I'd love to see them. I have never even heard of this ship before!
Posted by tderleth (Member # 879) on :
I did a search and this is what I came up with. Not a Schematic, but a few pics. IMHO this thing makes the Sabre look like a beauty queen.
Hey! NO slams on the Sabre, thank you! I happen to like the fast littlr ship. The Zanundra is kind of neat....for a science vessel. Are those supposed to be 4 nacelles? This design works great as a long range scoutship with an atmospheric mode (seperated) for planetary surveys. Looks damn fast too! Any ideas on this ship's length? I think I'll build one of these!
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: Because it wont be topics about the actors or the story but discussions about those things. I think that's one of the basic reasons why we are here.
I'm here for the pie.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Sorry, pie's off.
Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
Yes, you see, TSN decided to place a certain part of his anatomy in the pie, and he's right in thinking no one wants to eat it now.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Hey, that wasn't my fault. The pie smelled good, so I leaned over it to smell it, and someone bumped into me, shoving my nose into the pie. I couldn't help it.
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