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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :

I'm looking for two graphics that I haven't been able to find on the net anywhere:

The Charybdis mission Okudagram from "The Royale" (TNG) seen in Star Trek: The Continuing Mission. (The one that mentions the follow-up mission "Jacob.") IIRC it's a pretty small pic, so a good resolution scan is appreciated.
The Enterprise-B MSD from the Star Trek: The Next Generation Movie Sketchbook, as seen in Star Trek Generations. I know Bernd has a version of this on his site, but I have heard repeated claims that it has been altered, since the original graphic supposedly shows shuttlebays where the additional impulse modules are. Again, good resolution is appreciated.

And then, of course, if Dukkie would ever get around to scanning that TMP pic for me... [Razz]

Thanks,
-MMoM [Big Grin]

Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :

So, you want the original, incorrect E-B diagram? I thought I had it, but all I have is the corrected one, done by Adam Heinbuch I think. But you're right, it did indeed show shuttlebays in the place of impulse engines, it's not a myth.

Posted by SoundEffect (Member # 926) on :

Shuttlebays were the original design of the two 'pods' at the aft end of the Ent-B saucer. They got changed to extra impulse engines halfway through preproduction and strangely somehow on the cutaway, the side view shows them as shuttlebays yet on the same diagram, the top view labels them as impulse engines. The most disappointing thing is that Sulu's line about the deck 15 Kirk was on that blew out into space, was unfortunately in the Ent-B neck somewhere, not anywhere's near the deflector.

MMoM: The diagram in the Gen/FC Sketchbook of the cutaway is sprawled across two pages, so there'd be a huge crease in the middle of the bend. There's a smaller but single page diagram in the History in Pictures 2nd Ed.

Also, I have a scan of the Charybdis graphic in black and white. Would that be satisfactory? The original is in color, but I don't scan color when I'm making my Illustrator Okudagrams.

Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :

I suppose a B&W scan would do (though I'd prefer color) just so long as I've got a copy of the okudagram on file when I finally get to writing the pre-Federation section of my shiplist.

Any legible/discernable version of the E-B cutaway is fine so long as it's the original from the film. (And again, I'd prefer it to be in color, but if B&W is all that's available then that's better than nothing.)

-MMoM [Big Grin]

Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

I don't have the facilities to scan it, but I have the Sketchbook with the E-B cutaway. It clearly labels the aft saucer constructs as shuttlebays, and the MSD reflects this.

Mark

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

My Sketchbook already lies in pieces (and that's because I tried to look at the E-B MSD.. the book just fell apart [Frown]

). So I could scan the full size thing tomorrow or something.

Are you sure that Charybdis diagram isn't somewhere? I could scan that too, if it isn't too risky for the book.

Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :

Charybdis diagram? I know of no such thing, aside from the good Reverend's enticingly convincing counterfeit a while back. [Razz]

I'm looking for the original of this display that SoundEffect re-drew.

And your scans would indeed be greatly appreciated.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

Oh, you know what I mean.

Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

Here's a 5 MB ZIP of the scanned BMPs. They're huge, but I don't have the time to photoshop them together to one image, or to adjust the colors. Have fun with it [Smile]

Alternatively, here are two JPEGs of a smaller size and thus a lower quality.
entb1.jpg
entb2.jpg

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

MMoM: I did scan the TMP pics & emailed them to you, unless I mistyped your email address. Did you not get them?

Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :

No, I never received them. [Frown]

I have two e-mail addresses; the one in my profile ([email protected]) and the one I use for more regular stuff ([email protected]). I've been checking both of them regularly.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

I thought your email address was [email protected]. Huh. Anyway, I'll resend them using one of those other addresses.

Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :

Here's an integrated and cleaned up version of Harry's scans.
MSD 1701-B [516 KB]

Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Dukhat:
I thought your email address was [email protected]. Huh. Anyway, I'll resend them using one of those other addresses.

I used to have the address braindude64@hotmail, but I haven't used it for nearly a year. When I changed it, I sent a notification to everyone in my address book. I guess you weren't in there at the time. Sorry 'bout that... [Cool]

Rev: Thanks muchly! Bernd was going to do the same thing for me, but you beat him to the punch! [Razz]

-MMoM

P.S.
Is anyone going to post a scan of the Charybdis okudagram?

Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

Damn. But you have to take into account that I'm sort of disabled, as I have to use floppy disks to transfer forth and back files from my laptop to my computer at work.

Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :

i had that same problem, i think the saddest thing i ever did was when i plugged my digital camera into someones comp and dropped all sorts of mp3's onto my camera card and took them home.. '1337!