Christie's is going to hold a monster auction selling seemingly every last scrap of worthwile items from the Paramount Trek vaults. While the Q&A on the official site claims otherwise, it feels like the end of a (rather long) era. Since so many props are being sold off, it seems to be rather obvious that there is not much of a future planned at all. R.I.P televized Trek.
I wonder how all the people who made this stuff feel about 'their' stuff dissapearing into private collections for ridiculous amounts of money.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I wish my art would do that.
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
I wish I had the money to get some of that stuff
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
On the positive side, just wait fifteen years and we'll get an absolutely spectacular new Star Trek series with all new writers, actors, sets, and stuff analogous to what they're auctioning off. Heck, it worked for Doctor Who... Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
I want the 8ft Enterprise-A, the Workbee, and the Runabout. I'd take the plum suit that Jeri Ryan wore on Season 7 on Voyager also.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
And prance around doing housework in it?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
This news makes me very sad, but not because of the auction itself (it's to be expected, and I agree with Dukhat that this is in the long run a Good Thing). I'm sad because Paramount is going to make an absolutely obscene amount of money from what effectively amounts to a yard sale featuring junk from the attic. Sure, I'd be interested in buying a couple of little trinkets for the heck of it, but the prices are going to be so ridiculous that I'm quite certain it won't even be worth looking at the listings.
(Though I'm sure someone here will be checking for that old archived Cheyenne-class model or whatnot.) Posted by Johnny (Member # 878) on :
Well, there are all those tours, so at least a few of us should get to see the props and models before they disappear forever.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:(Though I'm sure someone here will be checking for that old archived Cheyenne-class model or whatnot.)
awww ....fuck yeah.
I'd settle for the Springfield!
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Why the HELL can't they put them in some sort of permanent museum!?!?! Morons. Trek changed the face of Television (and by extension - Movies) we know today.
If there was no The Next Generation in 1987 - there would be NO hour long sci-fi/fantasy-esque dramas that have pervaded our tv screens in the Ninties and Two-thousands.
Firstly No X-Files - something which REALLY brought all of it into the main-stream.
No DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, Babylon 5, Crusade, Mellenium, Farscape, Andromeda, Space: Above and Beyond, Earth: Final Conflict, Dark Angel, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Hurculese, Xena Warrior Princess, Stargate SG1, Stargate Atlantis, Lost, Numbers, The 4400, Dark Skies, The Dead Zone, American Gothic, Time Trax, SeaQuest DSV, Lois & Clark - The New Adventures of Superman, Earth 2, VR.5, Sliders, Psi Factor, Lexx, First Wave, Seven Days, Highlander, Beast Master, Harsh Realm, Beast Master, Total Recall 2070, Cleopatra 2020, Roswell, Alias, Mutant X, Birds of Prey, Dead Like Me, Firefly, Re-launched Doctor Who, Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica etc. etc.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Is that so?
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Anyway, I can certainly see what a crushing blow it will be to any future Star Trek production to not be able to outfit background characters with Jem'Hadar rifles. Think how much those added to the emotional power of Enterprise! Crisis, woe!
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It's only sad becacuse it truly signals the end to the TMP -and probably TNG/DS9 eras... at least the days of good model starships and not over-the-top Nemesis like CGI monsters.
I want the deadalus from Sisko's office.
I want concept art: I saved all the auctioned concept art from the last auction.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Is that so?
What I'm trying to say is, if Star Trek: The Next Generation WASN'T the success (AND being a syndicated hour long sci-fi/fantasy based television show at that) We might only now have Television networks willing to fore-go millions of dollars on sci-fi/fantasy based television. Do you REALLY think that they would have green lighted a show called "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" if there was NOTHING around before it to show that there was an audience for this kind of thing?
The types of shows on TV now might be up to something like the 50th CSI, CSI: Anchorage or the 100th Law and Order, Law and Order: Speed Camera Unit.
I forgot to add a few shows:
Starhunter, The Outer Limits (1995 version), Charmed, Space Precinct, Dark Skies, Jake 2.0, Now and Again, The Burning Zone, Odyssey 5, Tru Calling, Ghost Whisperer... plus more I'm sure.
At the time the only similar show you could PROBABLY compare TNG with - albeit very slimly would be Red Dwarf - and that was a half hour British Comedy.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
P.S. I'll have the DS9 model thanks! Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
I want the slutty little shear dress that Troi flopped around in when she was absorbing all of the one ambassador's negative mojo.
And a Jem'Hadar rifle.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I'll take Intendant Kira's leather outfit, a starfleeet "compression" rifle and Odo's bucket.
Oh! I also want Sisko's baseball! The ultimate prop, right there. Nothing says "I'll be back to kick your sorry cardassian ass." like Sisko's baseball. Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
Oh yeah Jason. That wins methinks.
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Yeah, but you might confused with someone who's "normal" by displaying that in your house.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Not if he gets the SIGNED baseball.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
So, I completely doubt Andrew's hypothesis, for the record.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Agreed- crap lke Charmed would have still been schlocked out.
Doctor Who obviously would have still been made.
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
I'll take the planet killer and attack Jason's fleet.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
There's a guy that laready made a 2500th scale planetkiller- I made a thread on it here if you want to look up pics. It's over 6' long.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
"I'll take the planet killer and attack Jason's fleet."
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Agreed- crap lke Charmed would have still been schlocked out.
Doctor Who obviously would have still been made.
Studios don't take gambles. Charmed etc. would not have made it passed a pitch if 'supernatural' type shows like the X-Files didn't make it big - and THAT show wouldn't have seen the light of day if shows like The Next Generation and Twin Peaks came along to show that there is an audience for hour long dramas of a science-fiction/fantasy nature. It's all about ratings and $$$$$ TNG showed it was profitable again to do shows like Trek.
Doctor Who would not have come along again in the hour-long format, if it wasn't for the success of the shows I've mentioned - mainly Trek, Stargate, X-Files and more importantly Buffy. It was bloody CANCELLED in the first place in the old format during early TNG.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: There's a guy that laready made a 2500th scale planetkiller- I made a thread on it here if you want to look up pics. It's over 6' long.
LOL 2500th scale - it's always about 2500th scale with you Jason!
What does the guy do with it - have sex with it? Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
I think it's mounted on his walll like a prize fish.
Besides, can you really imagine having sex to the Planetkiller music? I'd be laughing my ass off!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
"Studios don't take gambles. Charmed etc. would not have made it passed a pitch if 'supernatural' type shows like the X-Files didn't make it big - and THAT show wouldn't have seen the light of day if shows like The Next Generation and Twin Peaks came along to show that there is an audience for hour long dramas of a science-fiction/fantasy nature."
The clear flaw in your logic is : if "Charmed" was only made because "The X-Files" was popular, and "The X-Files" was only made because TNG and "Twin Peaks" were popular, why were TNG and "Twin Peaks" made? Obviously, there has to be a beginning to the chain ; a "gamble" has to be taken at some point. So, if TNG had never been made, any of those other shows could have been created out of whole cloth, and any of the good ones could have kick-started the progressive multitude of sci-fi/fantasy shows.
Also, while "Doctor Who" was cancelled (or, as it turns out, put on super-ultra-mega-hiatus) during the early days of TNG, it had, at that point, been on the air for 26 years and survived one previous attempt at cancellation. So I hardly think TNG can take any credit for its being popular enough to have a revival. Hell, it was already popular enough to survive the replacement of its primary actor back when the original "Star Trek" was just starting.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
TNG's success was due in large part to two things: Firstly, there was very little sci-fi compitition on US Tevevision at the time.
Second, it was pitched directly to the syndicated market: making it widely available everywhere for a relativly cheap consumer station cost.
That lack of availibility helped to kill Enterprise (and having the albatross of UPN around it's neck surely was a factor).
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
As I recall, an albatros was a network's good luck, 'til some idiot killed it...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
![[Wink]](wink.gif)
![[Smile]](smile.gif)
![[Cool]](cool.gif)
