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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MinutiaeMan</b> <br /><small>Member # 444</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2014,5,17,13,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 17, 2014</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:10 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> New thread, discussion started here:<br /><a href="http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/2630/3.html#000037" target="_blank">http://flare.solareclipse.net/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/2630/3.html#000037</a><br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fabrux:<br /><strong> <a href="http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Cardassian_ranks" target="_blank">Cardassian ranks</a>, as per Memory Beta. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't entirely agree with the assumption of the novels that there must be a 1:1 equivalent between Starfleet and Cardassian ranks. I agree there must be some more distinctions for hierarchy, but why not have grades within the rank?<br /><br />We know there has to be some wider scope in the rank of Gul, since Dukat was both captain of a single ship and earlier commander of an entire order of the military (which strikes me as either a fleet captain or even admiral's role).<br /><br />Furthermore, Damar was a glinn both as helmsman of a lowly freighter and as first officer of a major military outpost. (The <a href="http://www.st-minutiae.com/academy/literature329/526.txt" target="_blank">script for "Sons and Daughters"</a> specifically mentions Damar as a glinn.) <br /><br />Novels notwithstanding, does this make sense? <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2014,5,17,16,55,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 17, 2014</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:55 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> In old Earth navies, the rank of lieutenant came out of a junior officer that was the right hand of the captain, so perhaps glinn works in that sense. As for graded ranks, I like the idea, such as the modern captain 3rd/2nd/1st rank, corvette-captain, & the like. Yes, these correspond to ranks like LT & LCDR but that doesn't have to be true for other races.<br /><br />Furthermore, who's to say that there AREN'T only three Cardassian officer ranks—just gil, glinn, & gul. These might simply refer to (respectively) trainee & untested officers, the middle-management levels, & full overarching command authority. In fact, given what we know about Cardassian society & their brand of fascism, I could see this being the case. Pair that with your graded ranks & it becomes, "congratulations, Gil! You are now Glinn class 4.Be vigilant & strenuous in your efforts to move through the grades & you'll reach gul in a rapid 15 years." <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2014,5,18,11,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 18, 2014</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:16 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:<br /><strong>We know there has to be some wider scope in the rank of Gul, since Dukat was both captain of a single ship and earlier commander of an entire order of the military</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But we also saw Starfleet captains command anything from puny Science vessels (Grissoms), to supply ships (Lantree), to Federation flagships (Enterprise-D). <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>MinutiaeMan</b> <br /><small>Member # 444</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2014,5,18,11,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 18, 2014</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:45 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I agree, Starfleet has a pretty wide scope for the Captain rank, commanding ships that in the US Navy would be commanded by lower-ranked officers.<br /><br />But in the case of the Cardassians, the range is even wider, since guls command entire orders (fleets?) too. Picard may have commanded a fleet for a couple of weeks, but any permanent command in Starfleet is generally an admiral. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Fabrux</b> <br /><small>Member # 71</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2014,5,20,1,58,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">June 20, 2014</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:58 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Don't forget that there were once commodores and I believe fleet captain is also a thing. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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