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Did anyone who's read the final draft script to "Broken Bow" notice this bit, when the crew enters the Klingon High Council chambers?
quote:Scene 232 "Twenty or so other Klingons stand below them, including numerous armed guards. Most are Klingons as we've seen them but a few appear completely HUMAN."
Could it be that, even if there's no discussion, there are going to be original-series Klingons in Enterprise afterall? Sure seems like it to me... at least as of May 11. Maybe they changed their minds since then. It's a shame if they did.
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Maybe that's why the Klingon never talk about it...it's too confusing to explain...
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quote:Originally posted by Timo: So where's this final draft script to be read?
Boris Skrbic sent me my copy. It's a PDF, heavily annotated by "The Facer." Most of the commentary is negative, of the lame "Berman and Braga suck" variety rather than something useful... but, it is the May 11 final draft, and as far as I can see it's genuine. I have the May 1 plain-text version as well, and the differences are relatively minor, as one would expect from a final draft. However, there are some major changes, most notably...
BIG SPOILERS CAPTAINMIKE!
...T'Pol making out with Tucker in the decon chamber. Seriously. After Tucker says that Vulcans are predictable in the May 1 draft, the May 11 draft continues...
quote: T'Pol stares at Tucker enigmatically.
T'POL: You consider us predictable?
Without warning T'Pol embraces Charlie and KISSES him hard on the mouth. He struggles, startled at her strength - she's almost crushing him! - then CHARLIE RESPONDS.
And from there it continues as normal with Archer waking up. It makes Charlie's glance at T'Pol when Archer asks him what they've been doing in the next scene make more sense. At the same time, there is no further discussion and no ultimate explanation or closure to the issue. It may, in fact, be a fabrication by The Facer or someone else, as may be the human/Klingon thing. Who knows? Given that the rest seems accurate, I'm assuming it's all real until I have reason not to.
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I think if we do see some human-like klingons mixed with normal klingons, it would be safe to assume that Klingons of certain houses removed thier spines up there, as they did nothing.
Soon, it became forbidden or taboo to do so... or something.
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The most logical answer is... They're screwing with history again! "Hey, guys, let's make the Klingon first contact date 67 years earlier than what was canonically said before!" "Yeah!"
quote:Originally posted by Spike: Please not again. I think there are now at least 10 posts where people explain what McCoy really said.
Here's one more, just to be sure:
In "Day of the Dove" (TOS), set in 2268, it was said that there had been fifty years of hostilities with the Klingons. No mention of when first contact was.
In Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, set in 2293, it was said that there had been seventy years of hostilities with the Klingons. No mention of when first contact was.
In "First Contact" (TNG), it was said that first contact with the Klingons was centuries prior. That episode was set in the 2360s... so first contact, canonically, was prior to the 2160s. Enterprise is set in 2151, so it fits perfectly with the only canon reference to first contact with the Klingons.
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OK, OK. So, we won't have hostilities with the Klingons for nearly 60 years! If they show any Klingon/early Federation group hostilities at all during the series, they'll have screwed with history. You can't deny that.
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Veers, are you so determined to have this show screw 'history' over?
No matter what you hear, you always try to think up a new way for it being 'inaccruate'. Well sir, you need a life. And yes, I'm known to say it alot, but this time I'm serious. Shut the fuck up and play else where little boy.
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