Since no one has started a topic on 'Silent Enemy' unless I overlooked it.
Wasn't bad, in fact the only thing I didn't like about it was we didn't get to see Jupiter Station.
The aliens were... very alien. Though their motives for attacking Enterprise were not made clear which I also didn't like.
But for those wanting background info on other characters, this one has plenty on Malcolm Reed.
What we learn, there's a starship Shenendoah commanded by Captain Duvall. Whether it's one of the NX-class ships mentioned in 'Forunate Son' is unclear. It also shows a crew member from another Starfleet vessel with a different uniform patch. I wish I could take screen caps.
Finally the Phase Cannons debut, Enterprise has 3; 2 forward, 1 aft. They fire in beams, not pulses and when a supercharged overload blast fires... damn does it do a lot of damage.
BTW, please don't bitch at me for not putting "$$$" in the topic title. I used an episode title and if you don't recognize it odds are you haven't seen it. Common sense alone should let you know it contains spoilers. Something you should be prepared for when entering an Enterprise forum anyway.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Is it really easier to type a paragraph explaining your decision not to put spoiler warnings ... or easier to just type three '$' in the title?
Posted by Quiggie (Member # 771) on :
That was in my opinion the best Enterprise episode so far.
I have one question: The Vulcans have not encountered that race (at least according to Tpal) so that would imply that they are a new race which has just obtianed warp capability recently. If they've just discovered warp, how can they already be so advanced?
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Uh, no, it implies that they're not "from around here."
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Has "Sleeping Dogs" already aired or is this the first new ep since the winter rerun hiatus. I've seen threads about "Sleeping Dogs" and have avoided them but I haven't seen the episode. Did I miss something?
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Sleeping Dogs airs in two weeks, but some fairly sizable snippets from the script have been online for some time now.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
I thought it was quite a good episode, providing you overlooked a few "suspension of disbelief" items that occurred so frequently in Voyager.
I liked how the phase cannons emerged from the hull from hatches. In the tiny screencap I saw before the episode aired, it looked like the beams were just shooting out of two random holes in the hull, when in actuality that wasn't the case. I also liked how the cannons were put together with nuts & bolts.
The chemistry of the crew is growing on me.
Reed's parents were much less annoying than Bashir's parents.
Finally! Aliens who are truly "alien," not just humanoids with forehead bump makeup and who speak English. I think that keeping the aliens' motives a mystery was actually a good choice. (Sorry Hobbes)
I also liked Archer's admittance that rushing out of Spacedock before the ship was ready wasn't the best thing to do, even though the ends justified the means. Plus the fact that he at least realizes that space is more dangerous than he first anticipated, and that Enterprise wasn't the bad-ass ship he thought it would be.
The way Malcolm's friend's arm was positioned, it was almost impossible to see if the patch showed a ship. It had some kind of design, though.
"Sleeping Dogs" has not aired yet.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: Is it really easier to type a paragraph explaining your decision not to put spoiler warnings ... or easier to just type three '$' in the title?
Well I figured someone would have said something about it, as it happened to me before here when I used an episode title for a thread title. This time I have my reason ahead of time says I should put $$$ in this title.
Posted by Seven Of Nine (Member # 633) on :
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: Uh, no, it implies that they're not "from around here."
and what you just said means that Vulcan hasn't encountered them, if they're not around "there" it means that vulcans hasn't seen them therefore the person your post was talking to was right and as were you, you're just rephrasing it. (I just HAVE to make things complicated don't I? )
I liked this episode, although somethings weren't really explained, and I would really like to know if they ever really "stabilized" the cannon so it would shoot out the same amount of power as it would when it is overloaded.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Seven,
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I responded to this post:
quote:so that would imply that they are a new race which has just obtianed warp capability recently. If they've just discovered warp, how can they already be so advanced?
The point of my post was that nothing in the episode implied what Quiggle thought they implied.
What was the point of your post? I forgot.
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
I think that when Enterprise returns to the Sol Sector that it will be fixed to fire the same way minus the overload.
The episode was good, except that the aliens looked like the ones from Mars Attacks.
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
They aren't returning to Sol now that they installed the cannons themselves. They fixed the initial problem, and the only reason the cannons overloaded later was because they wanted them to.
Posted by Quiggie (Member # 771) on :
That's probably right. Or maybe, the Vulcans have encountered that race before, only T'pal doesn't know about it. T'pal isn't a very high-ranking Vulcan so the Vulcan Command probably wouldn't tell her everything.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Not that it matters what T'Pal knows, whoever she might be. However, what T'Pol knows is another matter entirely...
Posted by TLE (Member # 280) on :
I liked the aliens. They were definately different. I think they must have an aquatic evolutionary history judging from their appearence and the suit they wore. It reminded me of those diver suits they used to wear.
If you look at them you can clearly see they're wearing some kind of containment suit and their appearence resembles a cuddlefish or some kind of soft-shelled ocean animal. At least I think so.
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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I caught the episode late last night. Thank goodness for friends with VCR's.
All in all, it was a very enjoyable episode. It's nice that the creative staff finally got around to giving Reed some background and development. Of course, this can explain why we didn't know much about him until now -- he's a very private man. Looks like the Trek tradition of a main character having problems with his father is living on in Reed. I hope they revisit this later on in the series; Reed's old man really seemed to be quite ticked about his son. Watching Hoshi go through the episode playing the private eye was fun. I think I liked her exchange with Reed's friend the best.
I liked Archer's attitude change in this episode. He's finally realizing how dangerous and ill-equipped Enterprise is for deep-space exploration. He regrets some of what happened in "Broken Bow," but not ultimately going through with it. It also seems as if Archer's hatred for the Vulcans is beginning to lessen, or he's at least thinking things through logically a bit more. A nice continuation from "Breaking the Ice." Hell, T'Pol didn't even have to badger Archer into contacting the Vulcan High Command. Still, he admitted to Tucker that he was thankful they couldn't contact the Vulcans after all.
T'Pol was quite subdued in this episode, I thought. Maybe she's lightening up a bit around the humans? After all, she intentionally missed an opportunity to dig into Archer about humanity's bull-headedness and Archer's own emotions that got them into their predictament. Instead, she sounds down right reassuring to Archer by just saying there were less warp-faring species when they went out into the great unknown. Tucker had some really good moments, too. He and Reed work really together; they were feeding off of each other in the armory when they were starting to work on the phase cannons. Mayweather and Phlox got shafted in this episode, but I guess you can't win 'em all.
Here's a smathering of tech observations. One, Enterprise uses microprocessor chips. When the aliens board, the two engineers are pulling out a huge circuit board lined with chips on it. Reminds me of the 2 meg memory board from my old NCR computer. Apparently, there's a back door in the situation room that leads to a hallway. And, also, there seems to be a locker of flashlights everywhere there's an intercom. I guess this means they'd don't trust in uninterrupted power, huh?
Now, for a few things that bother me about the episode. First, was it really a good idea for Archer to shot at an unknown device carrying 600 gigajoules of power that has the ability to overload the phase cannons? I don't think so. Second, I don't think the support struts for the phase cannons should have been about to withstand the effects of releasing that much energy. Those things were fairly tiny, I think. Third, and what is probably my greatest problem with the episode, is that Archer didn't go ahead and head back to Earth. Yeah, they got the phase canons up and going, but what about the earlier system overhauls he was talking about? How about replacing whatever they had to cannabalize to build two phase cannons from scratch?
Still, it was good episode, I think. I liked it. Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
As if it wasn't bad enough us making jokes about Phlox being Zoidberg, they now give us aliens who look like Zoidberg. . . 8)
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Phlox is what you would get if you crossed Zoidberg with a Thermian
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
His dad... it's ... Lieutenant Gr�ber! From 'Allo 'Allo!
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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
No way. Seriously?
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
The aliens looked like Pak'Mara with shaved tenticles.
Someday, soon I hope, the Enterprise would go into battle at General Quarters, with alarm bells telling the whole ship that they're about to get their butt kicked.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Yes, it really is him. Took me awhile to figure out where I recognized him from.
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
Finally saw the episode, really liked it. Some problems though, like they started with one unmounted gun and they manage to build two more and install them in 48 hours. They must have some wicked machineshop on board, not to mention the electronics lab. It was nice to see some background on Reed. I really think the show is starting to mature, still some character development going on but the feel of the show is starting to be good.
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