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The Vorlon
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Umm, this new underside view (1st image) does not match the E-J shown on ENT very well (2nd image)...

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[ August 18, 2006, 07:32 PM: Message edited by: The Vorlon ]

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It seems so, I dno't know, distorted.

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Hmm. Maybe that's supposed to be a different ship? At least, I would think so.

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Well, where is it even from?
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Neutrino 123
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Where is the nose deflector and the rest of the nose on the new image? It can't be the E-J, too ugly.

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Judging by the bits of other ships next to it, I'm guessing the image is from that new book or whatever it was? Someone posted an image a while back, anyway. It had all the Enterprises on it, or something.
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AndrewR
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Maybe it's the Enterprise-I.

Let's just hope the rest of the book doesn't have similar sloppy work.

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Dukhat
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Yes, it's from a poster in the New Star Trek Magazine, which is the same as the cover for the Ships of the Line. I actually bought a copy today in order to scan the image for all you nutters. But I guess The Vorlon beat me to it. Too bad, because it was ten dollars, way too much to pay for a magazine.

So, obviously someone changed the ship around since it's debut in the SOTL Calendar. But why? The nose/deflector that makes the ship so futuristic-looking (IMHO) just isn't there anymore, yet it showed prominently in the diagram of the ship in the room Archer & Daniels were in. And the "new" underside looks nothing like the underside seen out of the window in "Azati Prime."

(Maybe this is what the ship is supposed to look like once the timeline changed back to normal after the Spheres were destroyed...?)

I'd be interested in seeing what the top and side views will look like in the SOTL book, if they've changed the ship this radically.

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I had the same thought, that in the Xindi War timeline future the E-J was a decendant of the NX-01, but in the real future, the E-J looked more like a decendant of the 1701 (new underside view).

But that would be VERY confusing to the casual viewer, wouldn't it?

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The Vorlon
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Dukhat, please don't let me stop you from posting the full poster scan (or a bigger scan of the E-J)! I'd like to see it.

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Wow I'm shocked. Such inconsistency for such an obscure ship. Why make a new model for a ship which didn't even have an exterior shot on TV?
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Mikey T
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Wow, that is ugly either way...

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Lee
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Larger view of the pic please?

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Or try this:

The top image is the ship destined to exist before the events in First Contact transpired. The second image (as seen on TV) was the ship as it actually turned out when, thanks to the timeline contamination caused by the incidents in First Contact, the pre-Federation Starfleet was significantly altered from that which Kirk et al would recognise from their history texts. Among these differences are design philosophies and operating doctrines which favour deflectors integrated into the saucer and discourage secondary hulls.

Yes, I'm afraid I am a proponent of the un-announced and officially un-acknowledged "reboot based on First Contact" theory. It's really the only way to make sense of alot of the prequel series in relation to TOS.

In summary: we're looking at two different timeline designs.

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Jason Abbadon
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Really shoddy work there- in NO WAY does that match the "J".
The angle of the nacelle pylons, their shape and the saucer are all crap.
Worse still, the deflector area looks like Enterprise B.

Doug Drexler must be spinning in his grave.

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