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That's very odd. I suppose they could've lost the original mesh, only the textures look the same. And you'd expect them to have recreated the front section of the saucer, since it's one of the most distinctive design elements.
I'm guessing people will just say it's a refit. Simplest explanation for a rather obscure ship.
quote:Originally posted by Lurker Emeritus: Or try this:
The top image is the ship destined to exist before the events in First Contact transpired. The second image (as seen on TV) was the ship as it actually turned out when, thanks to the timeline contamination caused by the incidents in First Contact, the pre-Federation Starfleet was significantly altered from that which Kirk et al would recognise from their history texts. Among these differences are design philosophies and operating doctrines which favour deflectors integrated into the saucer and discourage secondary hulls.
Yes, I'm afraid I am a proponent of the un-announced and officially un-acknowledged "reboot based on First Contact" theory. It's really the only way to make sense of alot of the prequel series in relation to TOS.
In summary: we're looking at two different timeline designs.
Oh Lurker don't try to rationalize it, they just phucked up big time.
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Either of them looks like it could make a nice design, but the texturing looks like I did it.
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Yeah, but we have a list of things that defy rationalisation - or rather, reasonable rationalisation. The registry of the Yamato, the length of the D- (oops, managed to stop myself in time there), you know, all that SWDAO stuff. This should probably be there.
In fact, it's a non-issue. A non-canon-however-well-associated-the-people-behind-a-calendar-might-be-with-Paramount view of a ship doesn't match a canon-seen-onscreen one. Big deal.
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They tend to propel the ship in an odd manner, if fired unevenly you get a good spin going though.
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Looks like they didn't even attempt to make the new (reconstructed?) bottom view match the top view. Otherwise the ship would have the deflector dish at the forward rim of the saucer visible from below, and the nacelle pylons would form a "V" and not be horizontal. At least that much is just too obvious.
Both versions are unbalanced and ugly anyway. They look like they were built using CDs and pencils.
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Ahh, but remember that the E-J we saw was from one potential future. The Battle of Whatever Five may not happen now that the sphere builders and their machines were destroyed. So, it's possible that this newer E-J could be the "real" one from the main timeline.
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Ahh, but remember that the E-J we saw was from one potential future. The Battle of Whatever Five may not happen now that the sphere builders and their machines were destroyed. So, it's possible that this newer E-J could be the "real" one from the main timeline.
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It was the Battle of Procyon V and it featured the Ent-J, a Nova class, a Prometheus, the "Dauntless", a Vorcha, and the sphere builders' giant space dildo. At Memory Alpha it's stated that the battle was part of an alternate timeline, but I thought it was part of the main timeline. Wasn't it because of their defeat by the Federation at that battle that the Sphere Builders tried to destroy Earth in the 22nd Century?
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