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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kenny: [QB] Thanks WK for transcribing those lists. Anybody know of any other "proposed" names that never made the cut? I can think of Argentina (became the Exeter)and Scimitar (became the Defiant). Remember that we're talking about TOS only. -- Kenny [/QB][/QUOTE]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Kenny</b> <br /><small>Member # 1592</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,25,8,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:11 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I've misplaced my copy of "The Making of Star Trek" by Stephen Whitfield, and I need to know the two sets of starship names that DC Fontana and Bob Justman suggested.<br /><br />I can't remember which ones Fontana suggested first, and then the second set of names that Justman preferred (and added to, if I remember correctly).<br /><br />And then there was the list of 14 names that Whitfield said had been finalized. <br /><br />Would someone be so kind as to transcribe the list on Fontana's memo, then the list on Justman's memo? There will be some overlap between the two lists.<br /><br />I have the "final" list of 14, so I don't need a transcription of that one.<br /><br />Does anyone know of other lists of "early" (or "proposed") starship names from TOS?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />-- Kenny <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Woodside Kid</b> <br /><small>Member # 699</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,25,9,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:36 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The list on Fontana's memo came in two parts. The upper part listed the following:<br /><br />Enterprise<br />Exeter<br />Essex<br />Excalibur<br />Lexington<br />Yorktown<br />Endeavor<br />El Dorado<br />Excelsior<br />Saratoga<br />Constellation<br /><br />The second part listed the following as alternates:<br /><br />Hornet<br />Wasp<br />Farragut<br />Hood<br />Bonhomme Richard<br />Monitor or Merrimac, depending on your loyalties<br />Tori<br />Lafayette<br />Ari<br />Krieger<br /><br /><br />Justman's memo listed the following as preferences:<br /><br />Enterprise<br />Essex<br />Excalibur<br />Lexington<br />Yorktown<br />Endeavor<br />Eagle<br />Constellation<br />Hornet<br />Wasp<br />Lafayette<br /><br /><br />Hope that helps. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Kenny</b> <br /><small>Member # 1592</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,25,11,12,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:12 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Thanks WK for transcribing those lists.<br /><br />Anybody know of any other "proposed" names that never made the cut?<br /><br />I can think of Argentina (became the Exeter)and Scimitar (became the Defiant).<br /><br />Remember that we're talking about TOS only.<br /><br />-- Kenny <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Mighty Monkey of Mim</b> <br /><small>Member # 646</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,25,14,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:16 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The <i>S.S. Beagle</i> from "Bread and Circuses" was originally the <i>U.S.S. Lord Nelson</i>.<br /><br />An early draft of "Patterns of Force" had the source of cultural contamination arriving aboard a small "<i>Ambassador</i>-class" vessel.<br /><br />The <i>Phase II</i> pilot script "In Thy Image," which eventually became TMP contained references to the <i>U.S.S. Aswan</i>, <i>U.S.S. Boston</i>, <i>U.S.S. Delphi</i>, and <i>U.S.S. Paris</i>.<br /><br />Another <i>Phase II</i> treatment made reference to the <i>St. Louis</i>.<br /><br />-<b>MMoM</b> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,25,20,28,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 25, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:28 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> "Tori" and "Ari"? All that leaves me thinking of are Amos and Fleischer. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Mighty Monkey of Mim</b> <br /><small>Member # 646</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,26,15,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 26, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:47 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <i>Tori</i> is Japanese for "bird" and <i>Ari</i> is Hebrew for "lion." <i>Krieger</i> means "Warrior" in (I think) German.<br /><br />-<b>MMoM</b> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Pensive's Wetness</b> <br /><small>Member # 1203</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,26,20,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 26, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:10 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim:<br /><strong> <i>Tori</i> is Japanese for "bird" and <i>Ari</i> is Hebrew for "lion." <i>Krieger</i> means "Warrior" in (I think) German.<br /><br />-<b>MMoM</b> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">is this list <i>supposed</i> to be cannon SFC ships? all connies? only some of these appear on lists like Ex Astris or DITL... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dat</b> <br /><small>Member # 302</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,26,21,52,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 26, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:52 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Not canon by any means. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>PsyLiam</b> <br /><small>Member # 73</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,27,1,4,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 27, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:04 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'd include it purely on the basis that Bob Justman appears to be a very funny man. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The Mighty Monkey of Mim</b> <br /><small>Member # 646</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2005,4,27,22,26,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 27, 2005</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:26 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> It appears that I neglected to mention that the "<i>Ambassador</i>-class" vessel from "Patterns of Force" (TOS) was called the <i>Magellan</i>.<br /><br />Incidentally, this tidbit comes by way of TrekBBS poster <b>Sir Rhosis</b>, a collector of TOS script drafts.<br /><br />-<b>MMoM</b> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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