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[QUOTE]Originally posted by spyone: [QB] OMEGA said: [QUOTE]You know, I find this all silly, for one BIG reason. You're thinking two-dimentionally! It was Khan's undoing, after all. The Cardies and Rommies pretty much have to share a border. The Klingons and Rommies share a border, for sure. The Klingons and Cardies share a border. The Fed borders all three. The only way this works in in 3D space. 2D maps will not suffice.[/QUOTE] I can make this work in 2d: The federation is in the middle, the romulans border the cardassians and the federation, the cardassians wrap around the other side of the federation, and the klingons wrap the bottom. You can even have areas of unexplored space between the borders: while the klingon border touches the Federation border at some point, there may be large areas that are unexplored. Of course space is 3d, and one must account for that, but the galaxy itself is not very deep, and at the diameters many people propose, an empire would HAVE to extend from the top to the bottom. While there is additional space above and below the disk, there are amazingly few stars out there, and what there is are Population One stars that are highly unlikely to have any planets (as they formed when hydrogen and helium was all there was in the universe). Depending on who you ask, the galactic disk near Earth is from 1000 to 3000 lightyears thick. An empire 4000ly across would have encountered the edge of this area a while ago. the most reliable data I have says:"Thickness of the Galaxy at/near Earth: An area 50 Parsecs (163ly) thick will include 65% of the stars, while an area 1000ly thick will contain 95% of the stars." While someone has proposed that the space empires will resemble a bucket full of marbles, a frying pan full of golf balls seems a better analogy. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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