During the end of STVI: The Undiscovered Country, the Enterprise-A is ordered decomissioned by Starfleet Command. Now the Enterprise-A has only been in service for less than 10 years, so a decommission after a short period of time seems strange, unless the entire class was ordered decomissioned itself. We therefore can put the decomission date of the Constitution class sometime after STVI. What do you think?
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Posted by Trinculo on :
My thoughts- The class, with the possible exception of two, were scrapped by 2300.
Posted by USS Vanguard (Member # 130) on :
Which two are the exceptions?
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Posted by Trinculo on :
"Relics" The ship in the museum
"Valiant" The USS Republic
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
The USS Endeavour NCC-1865 might also still be in service beyond 2300. Of course, she could also be the ship in the museum
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Of course, if the Republic from "Valiant" isn't the Constitution-class one, which it almost certainly isn't, since Picard seemed to suggest in "Relics" that the museum one was the only one left, there was only one left...
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Posted by steamrunner2000 on :
Well, I believe they stated in service probably til 2305-2310, since the Excelsior class ships were just starting.
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Picard simply said that there is "one like this in the Fleet Museum". He didn't say anything about it being the only one left. The Republic, on the other hand, is canonically very old. I'd say the chances of it being the Constitution class Republic are pretty fair, especially if Ron Moore wrote the episode. (Him being the staff's resident TOS fan.)
I suppose we could ask him, but I don't know if he's answering question on his AOL board any more frequently than he is at news.startrek.com.
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
The last ships in regular service were probably retired around 2300.
I trust Picard if he says there's one in the Fleet Museum, which automatically implies there are no others. If there were a ship in active service, he would have mentioned this one, because it would have been much more relevant.
Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
As I've said in the Ships Still In Use thread. Mike Okuda says Ron Moore reckons the Republic in use by the Academy is the original one. Of course, whether that's something he decided after the fact, or deliberately chose the name as one of the TOS Constitutions we know wasn't destroyed. . . that is the question.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Picard didn't explicitly say that the museum one was the only one left, but the way he said it made it seem so. If there had also been a training one left, he would have said that there were two still around. Even if he were only going to mention one, I would expect it to be the trainer, since it would still be in use. It would have made Scotty feel better to know they were still using an old Constitution, rather than having the better part of his life relegated to a museum exhibit...
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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Well, now that I think about it, 2300 seems a bit too early. The USS Lantree NCC-1837, Miranda class, was still in service in the 2360s. The USS Endeavour NCC-1865 has a higher registry, and most likely could have survived until at least 2350. It is also possible the Endeavour was destroyed, but if there was a sister ship to the Endeavour, built at the same time, and survived?
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
How about the constitution in the museum is an unrefitted class (put in there cause they new that these were gonna dissappear) and that the Republic is a refitted ship. Still old - but not the same as the 'no bloody a, b, c or d' Enterprise that Scotty asked for... although - how did the computer know he wasn't meaning the Refit Enterprise - but we see Scotty and Picard in the origianl TOS bridge so I would assume Picard meant one like the one they were in i.e. pre-refit.
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