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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Alright, you heard me, the Defiant is nothing but a flying toilet! No, I'm serious, this is good for a laugh.

On the blueprints for the Defiant in the DS9TM, they show crew quarters and head/showers. Seems all find and dandy, but check out all the Head/Showers on Deck 2! There are 15 seperate bathrooms on Deck the Defiant. Why would you need so many bathrooms for a ship that only has a crew of 40? I mean, do they expact mass diahrea from the crew or what?

Now, you may think, with 40 people onboard, that might seem reasonable to have that many bathrooms, but remember, not everyone is awake at the same time. 1/3rd of the crew is usually asleep at any given time (I'm suggesting there are 3 shifts). So, that means, about 27 people are actually up and working at any time during the day. And most shifts last 8 hours or so (1/3rd of the day). How many times a day do you expect someone to need to use the bathroom? I doubt if at any time during the day all 15 bathrooms are filled.

And, when one shift is waking up, people usually aren't taking all of their showers at the same time. Most of the time, people will use the shower that someone else just used, so, again, you need less bathrooms.

Of course, there is also the possibility of carrying more people in an emergency...

But, don't you think you should rip out a few of those bathrooms? Or maybe even stick some bathrooms in the crew quarters?

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Posted by grb on :

I think those bathrooms are really the crew quarters....

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

Well, hey, when you gotta go, you gotta go. . . 8)

Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Ha ha, in those DS9TM blueprints the Defiant bridge is 22m long (assuming the ship is 560ft long)

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Injured man rescued by Def: Can I lay down for a while?
Worf: No, but you may have a seat in one of our top-of-the-notch crappers! And listen, I made it play the klingon "merchant in venice" just for you!!
Inj. M: Nooooooooooooooooo! Me heart! "thud".

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Posted by Gaseous Anomaly (Member # 114) on :

I half-expected Tachy to have a hand in a Topic name like that.

Nimrod: where did you get your sig from?

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

So the toilets on the 170m Defiant are for 2m butts?

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

I haven't got much knowledge in ship architecture and such, so I say bigger is better!

G.A: Why, it's "Weird" Al Yankovic of course. It is the chorus from "Start Me Up". You know, with the Stones.
Doesn't make much sense to read it if you can't hear the music in your head, I guess.

Did someone say the "Defiant Bridge" stage is being dismantled? Why?

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

As show's done, they dismantled all the sets, sadly enough.

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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :

I hope someone kept all the blueprints stored safely...

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

I'm sure they keep all of the set blueprints since there is a chance that we may see another Defiant Class starship. Anyway, maybe it was an inside joke the authors or the people who create the pictures for the manual to place so many toilets there. But then again, the starship section of the DS9 manual was a joke so...

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

You see anyone laughing?

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

I'd say it was a swipe at the Ent-D only having one toilet on the engineering chart...

Actually, a 40-ship crew on a three shift rotation makes no sense. Are you saying that this ship runs with around 13 people on duty? We usually see at least 7 on the bridge. Maybe 5 in engineering. So that's only one guy left for sensors, weapons, medical, security, bring the coffee to the bridge, and all that jazz?

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :

Well, with 3 shifts, you have 1/3rd asleep, 1/3rd working, and 1/3rd doing recreation. There are around 7 officers on the bridge usually...of course, this is during battle when we see the bridge. It's more then likely they have some of that 1/3rd who would regularly being doing recreation on duty or something. With the ship just roaming around, nothing going on, then you usually will just need a commanding officer, helm officer, and another officer to do whatever else needs to be done on the bridge. You also could have 2 or 3 officers in the bridge, and the rest working elsewhere (cargo bays, transporters, etc.)

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

LOL Nimrod! I could just see Worf saying 'crappers' in his gruff Klingon voice.

The BREEN do NOT go to the toilet, they HAVE no honour!

heh heh

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Okay, there was a toilet in the engineering chart of the Enterprise-D? Which chart was that, was it the MSD or the blueprints?

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Actually, there are many times we've seen a calm, non-battle Defiant armed to the teeth with bridge officers; "Children of Time" sticks out in my mind. Or even... I'm terribly sorry for bringing it up... "Meridian".

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

*sends round the Klingons who are either lost or looking for a really good tailor*