Can anyone shed some light on this. Enterprise-E's dedication plaque lists the Stardate 49027.5 Yet a contest at LCARScomnet claims 49827.5 as does James Dixon's files. Anyone know where the second date comes from?
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, most likely, since it's only a difference in one digit (8/0), one is simply a misreading of the other.
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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
According to the picture of the dedication plaque in the Encyclopedia, it's Stardate 49027.5.
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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
Ah... I see, they probably thought it was the latter, because the Stardate for First Contact was 50893.5, and Geordi said they had been in space for about a year.
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Almost a year... *thinks* There's just something messed up with the First Contact stardate.
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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :
The SciPubTech poster has 49827 I believe, and there is a real picture of the plaque which shows the same number somewhere. Remember, Encyclopedia I had the Excelsior at 8105.5, while II has it at 8205.5 (same with the Chronology). These might not be identical reproductions.
Also, why would O'Brian be saying "I'm sure they'll be building a new one soon" as late as stardate 49011 (Way of the Warrior)?
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, since a ship isn't necessarily given a name until just before launching, it's possible that, when O'Brien said that, the decision had only recently been made to call the latest SovereignEnterprise, and he hadn't heard about it yet.
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
That or the Enterprise-E was originally named USS Yorktown and Miles didn't know about the switch...
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
I have the book "The Making of ST:FC" by Lou Anders. The book has a nice photo of the real ded plaque. The stardate reads 49827.5.
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Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :
Where did you get that Lou Anders' book? I have never heard of it. A search on Amazon turned up nothing.
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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
I think I have this book (if it's the one I think it is). It's very rare, but has excellent photos. Well done, that Trill! *high-fives Dax* 8)
For instance, it should have this pic:
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Nice pic. Only the SD is a little fuzzy. I can still tell it's 49827.5, though.
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Posted by Galen (Member # 72) on :
It boggles me conceive how the mistake would then end up in the Encyclopedia. Wouldn't they just print an image of the plaque itself?
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Posted by Jim Phelps (Member # 102) on :
No, because the Encyclopedia rarely uses the original art. The ship schematics are redrawn in Adobe Illustrator based on photos of the actual models - given their inaccuracy, I doubt that the process was anything more than simple drawing-while-viewing-the-photo. If the plaque was done in that manner, an error could have come up any time.
Boris
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
Better late than never: In 'Trails and Tribulations' sais one of the temperal inspectors that there are 6 Enterprises. In fact, he corrects the other guy, who said there were 5.
I don't know which stardate this happened, but it seems that the Enterprise-E is launched just before that time.
I hope this helps.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
I can see 49827
I'm not sure about the last number.
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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :
Yeah, that's an '8.' Might be a '3,' but definitely not a '0.'
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Also keep in mind that launching is different from active duty. Remember, in Generations, the Ent. B was launched, but didn't have all her equipment or her full drew. She hadn't even finished all her tests yet. Launched simply means spaceworthy and habitable and ready to get ready for service. It's likely that the Ent E was launched at least a few weeks if not months before her active duty began.
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :
That, my friend, is called a test-flight, not a launch.
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