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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on November 12, 1999 02:46 PM:

There was a thread about this earlier, but I wasn't able to find it.

Having just recently purchased Insurrection, I was able to confirm that that the yacht is indeed missing from its comfy little berth. Why? Three possibilities.

1.) The yacht was totally destroyed by the Son'a.

2.) The yacht was in one of the shuttlebays for some reason. Either it was being repaired, or it was damaged beyond repair. (Even in the second case, the crew would be obliged to remove such offending technology from the Bak'u world.)

3.) Since the Enterprise couldn't really leave the system anyway, the yacht was left on the surface, there to be picked up when Starfleet sent somebody around to clean up the whole mess and tow the Enterprise to the nearest starbase. (Or replace the warp core.)

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Posted by bonecrusher on November 12, 1999 05:07 PM:

Well I think that it was destroyed, burnt up in the Baku atmosphere probably because it was disabled heading toward the planet.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on November 13, 1999 02:56 PM:

I agree that it was probably destroyed. The new encyclopedia says it was (although that needs to be taken with a grain of salt). Also mentioned in the previous thread, it may be too big for the Ent E shuttle bays.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on November 13, 1999 04:15 PM:

The shuttlebays on the Ent-E are wide enough and tall enough to let the yacht through.

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Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on November 14, 1999 03:48 AM:

I reject that postulation.

Data was IN IT when it was driven off by the Son'a fire at the finale. There is no reason to believe anything other than that it landed on the planet and was later recovered and popped in the shuttlebay for a shine up and wax.

What's with this thirst for destruction?

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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on November 14, 1999 10:09 AM:

I agree Motgomery.

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Posted by Epoch (Member # 136) on November 14, 1999 12:42 PM:

I also agree that it was not destroyed. It is not very likely that it has a transporter onboard so data could not have beamed off to save himself.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on November 14, 1999 05:54 PM:

Actually, I'd be a little surprised if it didn't have a transporter onboard. Runabouts have them. The E-E's big shuttle had 'em. Even type seven shuttles have them. So why not the new and improved captain's yacht?

Which isn't to say that I think the ship was destroyed.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on November 14, 1999 06:56 PM:

Since my copy of Insurrection won't be subjected to cruel stop-motion punishment for another month at least (and most likely it'll arrive for Christmas at the earliest), I'm not sure about this one...

But didn't Picard control the transporting of supplies to the Yacht from aboard the Yacht? Was he just using the ship's transporters on remote control, or did he use the Yacht's own transporters? I know Riker says the crew noticed the use of transporters, but that might just mean they noticed somebody was using the *Yacht's* transporters.

Note that even if the Yacht for some reason was transporter-less, it is big enough to have carried an escape pod or two! And even lacking those, Data could probably have bailed out and used his previously unseen "in emergencies, I'm designed to be used as a parachute" capability..

And Michael: I think the E-E would have been perfectly capable of leaving the Birar Patch, warp core or no warp core. She had enough energy left for returning to the planet, engaging in combat maneuvers and firing phasers after the core ejection. And warp speed was out of the question in any case, thanks to the Briar Patch.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on November 14, 1999 07:26 PM:

The Ent-E could certainly leave the Patch but it would have taken a long time to get to a Starbase without warp. They probably met another ship outside the Patch to get/install a fresh warp core.

We can only guess what happened to the yacht. It was either destroyed (burnt up in the atmosphere) or put in a shuttlebay for repairs. They definately wouldn't have left it behind.

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on November 15, 1999 05:40 AM:

The yacht, a ship of 35 or so meters, almost definitely has a transporter. The only way that Data couldn't beam out is that the transporter could have been disabled in the attack. But then, the yacht could have been destroyed as well. But then, any evidence that this actually happened is missing.

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