If StarFleet Command offers you five ships and tells you to pick one, which will you pick? A brand new Excelsior-class A brand new Saber-class A brand new Norway-class A 15 year-old Nebula A torn-apart-during-the-war-and-then-repaired Galaxy
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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on November 15, 1999 05:32 AM:
Shouldn't this thread be in the Starships forum??
(btw: the Sabre )
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Posted by Saboc on November 15, 1999 05:37 AM:
sorry, I posted this message to the wrong place. And then 5 minutes after I realized that I made a mistake, I did it again. I read about a topic and posted my thoughts about that topic on another topic...I'm just not myself today. The test this morning really messed up my head.
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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on November 15, 1999 09:08 AM:
Such demand for my talents. . .
Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on November 15, 1999 10:38 AM:
Depends what you've to do with the ship once you chose it. Cruise around and impress the ladies? Go off to repel a Dominion incursion? Play chicken with a star going through high flare activity?
In reply, respectively; Sovereign, Defiant, Intrepid.
But since these aren't on offer... I'd rather have the Nebula, ta. As long as I'm confident the mileometer hasn't been fiddled with and it is free of rust and extra baryon particles, etc.
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Posted by Striker on November 15, 1999 11:18 AM:
Galaxy Class. Just cause of all the creature conforts. but why would a post-war repaired Galaxy be worse than a new one. I trust those pesky SF engineers.
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Posted by Saboc on November 15, 1999 04:25 PM:
If I was offered a ship, I would probably take the Galaxy-class...well maybe the Nebula...
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on November 15, 1999 04:58 PM:
Well, I might take the Excelsior, seeing as it's my favorite class. But, that's just based on looks, so... I think I'll take the Sabre. Nice, compact design. Harder for the baddies to hit... :-)
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on November 16, 1999 01:16 AM:
Galaxy, unless the carpets have been runied during the war.
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Posted by Davok (Member # 143) on November 16, 1999 02:44 AM:
A BRAND NEW Excelsior? So you think they're still building them?
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Posted by Saboc on November 16, 1999 02:58 AM:
I think they still make new Excelsior. I mean the majority of the fleets is Excelsior (and Miranda too). I'm sure they built new ones before and during the war.
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Posted by Saboc on November 16, 1999 03:59 AM:
It is so sad no new Ambassador is being constructed. Do you guys think that New Orleans and Cheyna (sp) are still in service?
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on November 16, 1999 04:52 AM:
I hope not!!! Rather they splurted out a new generation of ships. Which they are.
I'll take the Sabre too. Eats less turtle wax than the galaxy! And it seems pretty comfy too!! Just hope that rumour about a twin-warp-core is true!!
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on November 16, 1999 04:54 AM:
Well, I reckon that Ambassadors are still produced - albeit sparingly - they are probably off continuing to patrol Federation boarders far from the warzone...
BTW, That brand new Excelsior - here's hoping that the insides are still that cool retro 2270's look.
Andrew
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Posted by bear (Member # 124) on November 16, 1999 07:30 AM:
I pick the Galaxy than I would throw the biggest party this side of the Alpha quadrant.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on November 16, 1999 08:55 AM:
I choose (F), none of the above. I choose a holoship with external hologenerators to make it appear as any ship I want it to be.
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Posted by Saboc on November 16, 1999 11:20 AM:
A holoship? Hmmm...yeah but I don't know if Starfleet will send you to combat situations with a holoship. what do ya think?
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on November 16, 1999 02:09 PM:
*looks at the original list* Wouldn't choice 'D' be the fifteen-year-old Nebbie? I think you mean "F: None of the above"... :-)
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on November 16, 1999 05:33 PM:
I'd pick the Galaxy. Can I choose my own crew?
BTW, I'd be highly surprised if they still build Excelsiors from scratch.
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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on November 17, 1999 12:55 AM:
Corrected.
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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on November 17, 1999 01:06 AM:
Hobbes: "I choose a holoship with external hologenerators to make it appear as any ship I want it to be."
So you choose the Defiant?
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Posted by Striker on November 17, 1999 07:23 AM:
I highly doubt that they will be making any new ships from scratch other than the following: Galaxy, Soverign, Defiant, Nebula, Akira, Norway, Saber, Steamrunner and the Intrepid. There are probably some classes that I'm missing, but I highly doubt that they are making Excelsior and Ambassadors anymore
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on November 17, 1999 07:26 AM:
I don't see why not...otherwise there's a large size gap.
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on November 17, 1999 09:12 AM:
I wonder how much taxes I would have to pay for a Galaxy? Probably wouldn't get to keep it anyway, all those government dudes would kill me in the blink of an eye. Probably for the best though, I wonder how a Tri-cobalt device would affect Saddam's private palace?
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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on November 17, 1999 08:04 PM:
A tri-cobalt device would probably be enough to take out Iraq completely. Slight overkill
I personally don't think they make brand new Ambassadors, Excelsiors, or Mirandas anymore.
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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on November 17, 1999 08:42 PM:
Dax: Yeah right.
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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on November 18, 1999 11:28 AM:
Well, a tri-cobalt device just appears to be a relatively standard nuclear explosive, perhaps geared towards demolition.
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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on November 18, 1999 03:13 PM:
Yes, exactly. Why does everyone have this funny notion that a tri-cobalt is a super explosive?
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on November 18, 1999 03:34 PM:
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on November 18, 1999 05:19 PM:
Well, more fundamentally because it was a new device which was first used to blow up something big. The initial idea that "hey, it must be powerful" isn't too much of a stretch if that's your first point of reasoning.
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on November 18, 1999 06:20 PM:
Plus they used it once and never again - that makes it look like some sorta "Oh No" superweapon... which the Photon technically is - I mean 1 photon torpedo could destroy LA but - then what would they use all the time... phasers - but even phaser's can drill a hole to the earths mantle... see that TNG ep with Data's mother...
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on November 19, 1999 07:49 AM:
1 photon can destroy LA, but six quantums can't destroy a Jem'hadar bug?
How well shielded is LA? And I'm pretty sure 6 quantum torps could destory a Jem'Hadar Fighter. It's pulse phasers don't seem to have that much of a prob.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on November 19, 1999 08:17 AM:
It took six to destroy one in "Valiant" (DS9). (Actually, my above statement is inaccurate...change it to five or something.)
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