Boris

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But wasn't the MSD seen in the 'conference table' area behind the captain.

Andrew

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The MSD claims that the top of the "nose" (deck 2) is where the mess hall is. The DS9TM plans labels the same location as the "warhead control room".

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hmmmm as for what areas we have seen hmmmm

The bridge
a standard quarters
Sisko's ready room
The mess hall
Engineering
the corriors off the port egress of the bridge... seen in "Facets"
The shuttle control room - from outside
two types of shuttlecraft.
The corridor outside the quarters - seen in "The Search" and "Trials and Tribblations"
Have we seen the brig?? - or is that a starbase brig we've seen.

Andrew.

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Ralph: Um, Miss Hoover? There's a dog in the vent.
Hoover: Ralph, remember the time you said Snagglepuss was outside?
Ralph: He was going to the bathroom.
 

-the armory (never mind it's just a crew cabin redressed, "To the Death")
-Jeffries tubes ("Destiny" et al.)
-turbolift interior ("The Search" I think)
-transporter room (or more exactly "transporter corridor" , "The Search")
-cargo bay ("The Ship")
-sickbay ("Broken Link")

So pretty much all the traditional areas of a starship have been covered. Besides a bathroom, what else are we missing, except a shipboard kindergarten or arboretum or other things that certainly won't be aboard the Defiant?

Timo Saloniemi
 

"Warhead control room" and "mess hall" are synonymous.

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plus - what was that 'room' that Jadzia and Bashir were trapped in in "Starship Down"
Oh cause I'm lazy - were people wondering if there was a dorsal phaser turret?

look at this - some proof?
http://atstv.webhostme.com/photos/dsn_4/0541914a.jpg

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Ralph: Um, Miss Hoover? There's a dog in the vent.
Hoover: Ralph, remember the time you said Snagglepuss was outside?
Ralph: He was going to the bathroom.
 

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AndrewR: That pic is from "Shattered Mirror". We also see that same emitter fire in "Paradise Lost" and "The Emperor's New Cloak".

Oh yeah, we saw the Defiant-class USS Valiant brig in "Valiant". Does that count?

Also, I remember the Valiant ready room having a window. Isn't that a bit odd?

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As far as the original question is concerned, (our) Dax once noted that 68.58m + 170.68m/2 gives 119.6m. It could be that the former two figures predominated before the MSD was drawn up (which explains how the Art Department could ignore something as obvious as the MSD when deriving the 560 feet).

The medium-sized Defiant of the MSD could be a combination of the large Defiant established in the DS9 docking shots, and the small Defiant established in comparisons with the Galor and perhaps Jim Martin's sketches. We know that the latter used a ~68m figure for the "early" sketch in the Magazine, drawn without knowledge of the MSD, and there is further evidence supporting the number as an early production value.

The Fact Files' Defiant entry totally ignored the MSD as well, does anyone know when it was published, exactly?

Boris

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"Wrong again. Although we want to be scientifically accurate, we've found that selection of [Photon Energy Plasma Scientifically Inaccurate as a major Star Trek format error] usually indicates a preoccupation with science and gadgetry over people and story."

---a Writers' Test from the Original Series Writer's Guide

[This message has been edited by Boris (edited November 27, 1999).]
 

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Boris

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"Wrong again. Although we want to be scientifically accurate, we've found that selection of [Photon Energy Plasma Scientifically Inaccurate as a major Star Trek format error] usually indicates a preoccupation with science and gadgetry over people and story."

---a Writers' Test from the Original Series Writer's Guide

I dare say I can see merit in the 560ft figure, but I'll say no more on the subject. *runs from the lynch mob*

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"Forgive me if I don't share your euphoria!" (Weyoun to Dukat, Tears of the Prophets)
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