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Posted by Individual 5748 on :

Just for fun, I did a little work. In "Scientific Method," the Doctor says there are 257 rooms on Voyager. I thought I'd check how many have been revealed.

Now, I'm assuming the ship has two-hundred quarters (given the fact that there are about 150 standard crew, or would be in the Alpha Quadrant) - and there would need to be room for ambassadors, guests, mission specialists, etc. during any particular mission - and room for times when the ship would perform evacuations.

That leaves 57 rooms left. Here's what's been revealed:

bridge, ready room, briefing room, mess hall, cargo bays (at least two), transporter rooms (4), torpedo control room, sickbay, holodecks (2), armory, science lab, astrometrics lab, geology lab, turbolift maintenance/control, shuttlebays (2), Main engineering, deflector control, navigational control, environmental control, stellar cartography, stasis bay (large empty room in "One"), morgue chamber room, brigs (2), hydroponics bay/lab, airponics bay/lab, and storage chambers (at least 3).

That adds up to 35, leaving 22 rooms unidentified. However, I'm also assuming that there are probably anwhere from three to eight more cargo bays and two to seven more storage chambers.

But I was thinking, Voyager is small, but 57 not-quarters room seems too small a number for the ship. I mean, there are probably some single decks on a Galaxy-class ship with 57 rooms. Do you think 57 rooms for Voyager is realistic. I guess it would be, but I want your opinions, as well.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, in "Lower Decks" (TNG) they mentioned that even some lower-ranking officers share quarters (and this is a Galaxy), so maybe the same is the case for Voyager.

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Well, in Voyager's "Flashback," Tuvok was bunking with other people onboard the Excelsior. I would think that all Federation starships have people with their own qurarters and those who share quarters.

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Posted by Dane Simri (Member # 272) on :

ST-6 shows a "barracks" arrangement for enlisted crewmembers (several sleeping in bunks in the same room), with at least three people sharing a room. The scene I'm referring to is when Uhura makes the ship-wide announcement for a court reporter to report to sickbay to take statements from the two co-conspirators (to trap Valeris).

Interestingly enough, these barracks were shown as being co-ed...

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Well also consider the fact that rooms like the shuttle bay and somthing like a shuttle maintenance deck would take up just about the whole deck. The Galaxy's main shuttle bay takes up about 90% of two or three decks of the saucer section (including observation and maintenance).

I wonder if Voyager has a head adjacent to the bridge and the Captain's Ready Room like the Ent D did. I don't recall seeing any extra doors on the bridge...

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Posted by KXZ (Member # 119) on :

Where does that corridor near Ensign Kim's console lead to?

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

One side is a turbo lift and one side is the conference lounge, if I remember correctly.

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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

There is no conference lounge.
The doors to the Ready Room and Briefing Room are infront of Kim's & Tovok's Consoles. The corridor behind Kim's console goes to the escape pods and airlocks.

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

Well Voyager isn't a Galaxy Class now is it. But I would think that the Briefing Room is a smaller version of a Conference Lounge. But where is the bathroom on Deck 1? Don't tell me that the crew goes back to their personal quarters to use the can?

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

Janeway: "Chakotay, you have the bridge. If you need me, I'll be in my quarters. And inform me when we reach the binary star system."

Chakotay: "Kathryn, I thought that you wouldn't miss this rare binary star system? What are you going to do in your quarters?"

Janeway: "Normally, I would stay in my ready room, but there isn't a bathroom on Deck 1 and I need to get rid of Neelix's caserole surprise in me right now."

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

Here's a schematic of the Intrepid-class bridge area.

It just occured to me how strange it is that the bridge has only one turbolift. I thought Starfleet got into the practice of having multiple/backup turbos. Oh well.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Conference Lounge, Briefing Room: Same thing.

I guess there is a Captain's Head (thanks for the schematic) but still none for the rest of the crew. Imagine having to ask the Captain's permission to use her private rest room every time you have to go! Come to think of it, I do remember seeing that door in Janeway's Ready Room and wondering what it was for.

I guess there could be a head immediately to your left in the corridor to Deck 2 behind Kim's station.

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Posted by Black Knight (Member # 134) on :

I think that other corridor thingy inside of the Briefing Room could lead to a Head. Even though that particular diagram says they both lead to Deck 2.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

OK that little corridor - I have heard doors when someone went down it - I guess that is just so they can seal the 'room' if necessary.

1. Its a ramp to deck 2.
2. it leads to jefferies tubes, airlocks and escape pods.
3. it leads to the head.

2 and 3 are probably just at the end of the corridor - but on deck 2.

Andrew

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

That ramp idea is plain wrong...have a look at the deck 1 on the Intrepid model. There's clearly a flat hallway with several rooms off it on there, one or two of which I assume would be heads. To port there are two escape pods.

Also, you can see that there is indeed a second turboshaft.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

The_Tom: I believe you're right. Where the schematic says "access to deck 2" it should say "access to deck 1 aft".

That supposed second turboshaft is actually the stored turbolift for the single shaft.

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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :

Hey, it's the emergency turbolift. It's that or something that Voyager would use when they are docked inside Starbase 74.

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Sometimes I'm scared of you
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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Well... yeah - its aft access... but I'm sure there is also non turbolift access to deck two. yeah that second circle is where they but the actual turbolift pod in in say spacedock.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Consider this. Maybe both arguements for the ramp behind the door near Kim's station are correct. Maybe, as the corridor goes back, half of the floor stays level on deck one and proceeds aft to the escape pods on the port side and several rooms, like the head, on the starboard side. The other half of the corridor has a hole in it like the stairs to a basement in a house, where the floor turns into a ramp and leads to deck two. This hole in the floor would happen before the corridor reached the escape pods.

The second set of doors to the Briefing Room is not a head. We've seen people entering the room through both sets of doors. There is clearly a hallway outside that set of doors.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

It would be practical to extend ramp/ship's ladder access to the briefing room, since this is the place where Janeway often meets alien emissaries. It would only be prudent to have a direct way to get to the room from the transporter rooms without letting the alien visitors see the bridge of the ship!

I'm sure Rick will draw at least one ramp for the Voyager blueprints when we get that far - he did for the E-D. It should definitely connect both to the corridor behind Kim and to the one branching from the briefing room, because we have seen people depart through both to conduct business in the lower decks. So I postulate the following for Deck 1:

Corridor from Janeway's Ready Room only leads to the head. Corridor from Briefing Room curves to meet a lengthwise central corridor behind the bridge. Corridor behind Kim leads directly to this central corridor. At the front end of the corridor is the turboshaft, and the "pocket" for the spare turbolift could easily have an extra door opening to this corridor. At the aft end of the corridor is a ramp or ship's ladder down to Deck 2 and below. On both sides of the corridor are lifepods, heads for the crew, and various other utilities.

Normally, our heroes use the bridge turbolift to move since there's nothing stunningly interesting on Deck 2 and turbolift gets them faster to more distant locations. But low-ranks often use the ramp/ladder so as not to crowd the 'lift. And foreign dignitaries are taken to the Briefing Room either up the ramp (not ladder in this case!), or through the alternate door to the turbolift, so as not to let them to see the bridge.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Starbuck (Member # 153) on :

Wasn't there a thread in the Voyager forum on this topic??
I know that in "Twisted" someone (Kim or Janeway) refers to a small cargo hold behind the bridge. I also like the joke someone made about a recurring ensign having a jacuzzi and armoury back there because in one scene he left the bridge through that corridor looking unshaven, and came back clean-shaven wielding a phaser

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Timo: For the most part, I agree with your theory, but there are lifeboats on only one side of the corridor as you can see in The_Tom's picture of deck one. My guess is that the corridor behind the bridge forms a modified 'T' with the top of the 'T' being directly behind the bridge and the stem proceeding aft. One side of the cross goes to the turbo lift, the other side to the briefing room. I think the aft corridor probably dead-ends into a window or small docking hatch (I can't really tell from the picture what's back there but I think I see something). I still think a small ramp drops off like stairs directly forward of the escape pods and leads to deck two. I don't like the idea of a ladder.

As for nothing interesting on Deck 2, the mess hall is down there. Tom Paris need FOOD!

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Well lets get our voices heard! I want to see have moving camera shot down that corridor behind Kim!!

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

They'll never do it! A) They'd have to add on to the existing bridge set which probably takes up almost all the space they have in that area and B) according to various behind the scenes things I've seen, they probably use the space behind that door to store wardrobes and other props.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Easy to get around it - start filming on a different set... I mean the Defiant sets don't join - but you'd never notice - just make it so you can't see behind you as you walk down the corridor/ramp.

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Aban: Yup. Just two lifepods, and a T-shaped (or perhaps more like Y-shaped) corridor. There doesn't seem to be any room for a connection from Janeway's Ready Room to this corridor, but there's plenty from the Briefing Room (there could even be a small pleasant lounge aft of the BR, with some replicators for a quick snack).

And by ladder I meant "ship's ladder", a steep stairway perhaps at 60-70 degree angle, not a vertical ladder. You know, the type Paramount could get cheaply from any submarine movie, complete with a very pleasing metallic sound when the crew races up and down.

A door or airlock would be nifty at the aft end, and remniscent of the TOS movie ships, but the actual ship model probably doesn't have a door on the exterior. I haven't found a decent picture yet... My Monogram model certainly omits this detail, but then again, it has very little detail overall.

Timo Saloniemi

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Yeah Timo, I looked at mine too, but I wouldn't believe that. My guess is either an EVA hatch is there or maybe a window.

And now i see what you meant by ladder. That doesn't bother me nearly as much. Sounds like the stairs to my basement actually. I'm gonna kill myself on those things...

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Y'know, I doubt that they would build a whole new set just to show one shot of the hallway between the bridge and the briefing room. I mean, we never got to see the hall between the E-D's bridge and the observation lounge. It was a long time before I realized that the back wall of the bridge and the back wall of the OL were not right up against each other... :-)

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Posted by Marko Latin on :

I guess that paramount just didn't think on how theese rooms would look when all put together when designing voyager interrior...or any other starship interior for that matter...

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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :

"That leaves 57 rooms left. Here's what's been revealed:

1) The "Stasis Bay" was in all likelyhood a large Cargo Bay temporalily converted for the task (and how long did it take to replicate over 100 chambers?).

2) Since Geology is a science, we can assume that there is no "Science Lab", but rather a lab for each of the pertinent science disciplines.

3) Although programmed with a plethora of Medical knowledge, the Doctor may not know much about military/shipboard nomenclature. There are no "rooms" aboard a vessel, there are compartments - although a compartment can be so referred (Briefing Room). A compartment is defined as an area which can be sealed off from others by bulkheads and hatches (compartmentalized). The Doctor's office is not a compartment, although the Medical Lab adjoining it might be (is there a hatch between it and his office?

In my upcoming deck plans, I have created a list of compartments. I will check it against your list (including quarters but excluding heads and corridors and jefferies tubes/access crawlways). I sure hope I'm close to 257. Otherwise I'm in for a lot of reworking...

Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Reliant didn't have two turbolifts on her bridge. There should be an alternate escape route not relying on the turbolift system anyway.

Isn't there a security office that Tuvok has? Doesn't Chakotay have his own office too?

Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

There are always the conduits.

And I believe we have never seen anyones office other than the Captain's on a starship.

Hey look! Another 1+ year old thread... Is someone dusting of the archive or someting?? Not that I don't mind, just curious...

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Posted by Pro. Portside on :

We have seen the first officers office I can not reacll the ep. it was in but I know it was also shown in the star trek mag. #19 it had a nice 3d redering and some pic's taken from the show. Acording to the mag. chakotay's office is on deck two.

and no I do not have a pic of it but tonight I plan to beat my scanner with a rubber hammer. I do not think it will fix my scanner but I will feel better.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

I could have sworn Tuvok had a security office! It had that cool, raised, semi-curved panel on the desk with all the datascreens in the back. The set doubled for Chakotay's office. It hasn't been shown recently. As a matter of fact, I just saw a site with pics of them up but I didn't bookmark the damn thing. Aargh. I'll try and find it later.

Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :

Yes, Tuvok has an office. I remember one episode with him and Neelix in his office. AFAIR it was in "Investigations".

Chakotay's Office

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