The ship i mean, the thing fights a ship smaller than the Intrepid and yet it sill looses! I mean come on, you got a borg on board and some "technologies" onboard e.g. Isokinetic cannnon, nanoprove torp.'s and a shit load of new shield frequiences for them to escape there "bad situations" they should be able ammount a better defense and create a new shield and weapon system, and they cant even figure out there Quantum Slipstream drive, yet they used it once successfully used it in hope and fear, why didnt they just reuse it and not build a new one???
PS this is my opinon, I want some responses about how they could improve there shields weapons etc! Why else does it suck??
------------------ "I Got two words for you.. S*uck it!"-DeGeneration X Oh Hell Ya there back!
I sure don't want to see them improve their shields or weapons in any way. Think of it - if they could do that, what explanation could there possibly exist for Starfleet not having done it ALREADY?
The ship is as good as Starfleet can make it. If it doesn't cut it in battle, then too bad. It needs to rely more on cunning plans than firepower, then.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
And to be fair, Voyager is usually outnumbered, rather then out...uh, teched.
------------------ "20th Century, go to sleep." -- R.E.M.
Posted by Marko Latin on :
Hello? The Voyager is a scout ship and not a battleship...and starfleet usually starts fireing last...when no other sollutions are possible and when they can't escape anymore...
Remember the episode when seven accused a trader for extracting borg technology from her to use in weapons...when his ship attacked the voyager they didn't fire on it even when their shields were destroyed...
------------------ Dream on...in the end...dreams are everything...
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
O.K. I get really pissed off at stuff like this. Most of the things you're complaining about have been explained. The Slipstream is an extrememly advanced tech that wasn't designed for Voyager in the first place! Plus, it nearly destroyed the ship! "Why don't they just rebuild it!" You rebuild the damn thing! They're (and note the use of 'they're' not 'there') alone on the other side of the galaxy with limited resources and you'd have them build form scratch a technology that has never been studied and can't be looked at in a controlled environment. And people say the shuttle problems defy credibility. Sheesh!
What you argue for is the death of drama. Why can't they just solve all their problems overnight? Cause the friggin' series would be over!
------------------ "A gathering of Angels appeared above my head. They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said..." -Styx
Dont lecture me on grammer or english, I DONT GIVE A SH**! Anyway they could combine the tech to improve the ship, they did it to update and build a new shuttle, the Delta Flyer!
------------------ "I Got two words for you.. S*uck it!"-DeGeneration X Oh Hell Ya there back!
------------------ Sometimes I run Sometimes I hide Sometimes I'm scared of you But all I really want is to hold you tight Treat you right, be with you day and night Baby all I need is time
-Britney Spears
Posted by Montgomery (Member # 23) on :
Then Voyager's a GREAT ship.
*smites Voyager-bashers*
------------------ Gene: "I AM Star Trek" Yvonne: "You can't sum yourself up in so small a package." Gene: "SMALL?!!"
- Gene Roddenberry: The Last Conversation
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
*Engages old-scholar-rant* "Oh yees, Smite Thee Down Thine Enemy With A Sword-stick."
Besides, voyager is only small if you compare it to a Vor'Cha, Warbird or Akira, in the arms-race that is the alpha quadrant. It has outgunned many deltaquad-vessels in it's path.
------------------ Somehow we're going somewhere.
[This message has been edited by Nimrod (edited January 22, 2000).]
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
And it has BEEN outgunned by many vessels in its path, too... check my other topic called "I'm bored... etc" (couldn't resist promoting it )
------------------ "Cry havoc and let's slip the dogs of Evil"
Posted by warbird5 on :
Voyager is always either outgunned or outnumbered. that what creates the drama in the series. Plus, Voyager is a long range scout ship, hence the top speed of warp 9.975. Janeway always tries diplomacy before fighting. That's kinda common sense b/c they are just a scout ship stuck on the other side of the Galaxy. if they didn't use diplomacy, there would be fleets of ships coming after them.
Posted by warbird5 on :
Even if they went against a minor power with 100 or so ships, they would be blown to bits. Imagine if they went against a federation sized entity with 20,000-30,000 ships.
Posted by warbird5 on :
I know this reply does not belong in this thread but, I'm finally a regular member. Within 1 month, i came from being a new member to a regular member
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
And I went from new member to nobody in a month, thanks to a glitch in somebody's unauthorized editing attempt! Aargh! When and how can I get my nice "member" line back?
