I was watching the last episode of DS9 last week and i was wondering which runabouts were still operating. I know the rio grande was still there but how about the rubicon, shanandoah and the volga. Are there 3 runabouts at ds9 since the Gander was destroyed and we never saw a replacement.
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The Rio Grande is still there. I think the Shenandoah was the ship Nog and Jake were on at the beginning of "Valiant". It was either abandoned, destroyed, or picked up later by another ship. I seriously doubt it could've fit on either the Defiant or the Valiant.
Me thinks the Rubicon and the Volga have both been radically disassembled too.
So we had the Rio Grande and the Gander (which was destroyed in which ep again?). What about the ship Dax, Obrien and Bashir were on in "One Little Ship"? Which runabout was that?
You can probably check any one of a dozen websites for a status report on the Runabouts.
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I'm not so sure that weren't more than three runabouts assigned to DS9 by the end...
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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
It's certainly possible. There are SIX runabout pads on the station after all. There are also storage hangers for at least two ships to use the same pad.
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I know there are only three runabouts stationed at ds9 at any one time so by the end of the seventh season there was the rio grande, gander and one other. I was wondering which one? Is it one of the three runabouts below if so then what happened to the other two runabouts?
USS Rubicon NCC-72936 USS Shenandoah NCC-73024 USS Volga NCC-73196
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Actually nx - I think there might be six runabouts stationed there in the end... the E-D delivered 3 in Emissary and there were at least that many up to and including the Season 2 3 parter... I reckon along the way there - there would have been more than three assigned once DS9 got a little more important - oh also there were three up till Maquis part 2 as well - oh and of course The Jem'Hadar...
Though later on we here more of just runabout pads A, B and C... we here of D, E and F... ok maybe they are left vacant - but we saw a Runabout in "In the Pale Moonlight" when the Romabout landed - so why not dock the Romabout at one of the three unused pads... I think they were all full... with runabouts...
In the DS9 Tech manual there was mention of the six runabouts - and Either Ira Behr or Ron D. Moore mentioned 6 runabouts...
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
The Gander bit the dust in "Penumbra".
Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Ganda!
The Shenadoah was destroyed in "Valiant" according to the closed captioning.
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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :
Wasn't the Volga, Rio Grande, and the Gander the runabouts assigned to DS9 before "Penumbra?" And I did think that the Shenendoha(sp) exploded at the beginning of "Valiant" since either Nog or Jake talked about a core breach, or was it the computer?
The DS9 Tech Manual says that the runabouts are managed from six launch and maintenance bays.
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Frank, would you prefer I called it Ganges? There's about as much proof for each of the three (except that one of the first two is actually a river). Although a second Ganges is mildly odd. Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
There is a runabout called Gander destroyed by the jemhadar in the last season. The Ganges was destroyed by a telani cruiser in the 2nd seaon. Was the Shanandoah abandoned?
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Either it's Ganda and Ezri has a slight British accent or it's Gander and Sisko has a slight Maine accent...
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
Or was it the other way around? I forget.
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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :
DeBoer's from Canada, so she might of been speaking aboot the Ganda, eh?
Although it's Gander. It fits, and it works with the scheme, so Frank's wrong. Again.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
Fabrux: It's the other war around, but you can't say "Ganda here" as fast as she did. The tongue has to move backwards a bit for the h sound, which is also similar to the position for the r sound.
UM: No I'm not. :P
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
"Either it's Ganda and Ezri has a slight British accent, or it's Gander and Sisko has a slight New England accent (and the runabout is named after an Earth river, like usual on DS9), or the close-captioning of Ganges was correct and this is the second runabout with that name," would be best. Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Uh, it's not the other way around, Frank... If the runabout's name is Ganda, then Ezri is saying the improper "Gander," so she has a slight British accent. If the name is Gander, and Sisko is saying the improper "Ganda," then Sisko has a slight New England accent.
Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
My math teacher is from Maine, and he does the -er thing. OTOH, many British people mispronounce the -er into an -a sound.
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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :
Let's face it, Nicole DeBoer is Canadian. I have met a Canadian who transfered into my French class. When she spoke in English, she would say the -er words in -a.
For example: Are you goining to dinna(dinner) tonite?
That singa(singer) is cute!
And when she met Michael_T, she thought she was meeting a French girl!!!
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
But, the problem we're having is the opposite. And, as we discussed above, this thing doesn't seem to be regional at all.
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
Uhh, saying there's a "Canadian accent" is about as bad as saying there was one dialect in the USSR.
And, to be perfectly honest, it's the stereotyped Southern Drawl (TM) that does the "'-er' sounds like '-a'" thing.
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
As does the stereotypical brittish accent, stereotypical ebonics, etc. Accents aren't defined so much by what's left out or added on as by what's emphasized and by how long certain sounds last. Anyway, why doesn't someone look up both names and see if there are rivers called by either? That'd pretty much settle it. Assuming, of course, they stuck to the river naming scheme, and there aren't rivers by both names.
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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
There's a Gander River, but it's tiny, IIRC. And Ganda could be an alien river.
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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
There's a Gander river in Newfoundland along with a city named Gander.
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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :
It's not tiny, per se; smaller than any other one yet, IIRC, but it exists.
And Sisko has always named runabouts after Earth rivers. We have no reason to think he'd change that. Although no reason to think he wouldn't either...
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This is the part where Frank snaps and beats up the waiter, and then Bart has to testify against him, only he can't because he was skipping school, right? I loved that episode.
Oh, wait...
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Posted by Justin_Timberland (Member # 236) on :
What does the new encyclopedia say about the episode "Valiant?" And does the book mention the explosion of the runabout?
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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :
In the updated encyclopedia it mentions the episode valiant (there is even a picture of the USS Valiant). It mentions nog and jake on a diplomatic mission and are attacked by jem'hadar fighters and are forced to abandon ship when they are rescued by the Valiant. There is no mention of what happeneed to the Shenandoah after that but since it was abandoned in cardassina space i doubt we will see it again.
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There's about as much proof for each of the three (except that one of the first two is actually a river). Although a second Ganges is mildly odd. 