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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,13,3,5,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 13, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:05 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, I think I may have some canon evidence for ships in Trek can have the same name at the same time. I was just watching "Remember Me" (BRILLIANT EPISODE) when Beverly asked the computer if there were any other ships in Starfleet at the moment with the name Enterprise - the ships said the thing about 5th ship to bear the name and then that there were no other Enterprises in service at the current time.<P>Andrew<P>------------------<BR>"Who wouldn't be the one you love <BR> Who wouldn't stand inside your love." - <I>Stand Inside Your Love</I>, The Smashing Pumpkins<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mikey T</b> <br /><small>Member # 144</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,13,5,9,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 13, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:09 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> That was a good episode. Anyway...<BR>I've always thought that two ships can have the same name, but with different registries and classes. Look at the Lexington, we know one was a Nebula and another an Excelsior. <P>------------------<BR>"Life's a bitch, then you die"<BR>-USS Luzon, Vanderbuilt Class starship<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,13,5,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 13, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:20 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Starfleet probably doesn't look that close on names, but more on registries, like most navies (I think).<P>------------------<BR><I>If you want to get your soul to heaven,<BR>trust in me.<BR>Don't judge or question.<BR>You are broken now,<BR>but faith can heal you.<BR>Just do everything I tell you to do.<BR>Deaf and blind and dumb and born to follow.<BR>Let me lay my holy hand upon you.</I><BR>-Tool, "Opiate"<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><A HREF="http://www.prakesh.f2s.com" TARGET=_blank>Prakesh's Star Trek Site</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>nx001a</b> <br /><small>Member # 291</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,13,5,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 13, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:59 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> or we could assume was destroyed or lost<P>------------------<BR>"We set sail on this new sea because their is new knowledge to be gained and new rights to be won" John F Kennedy<P> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/mfwan/index.htm" TARGET=_blank>members.aol.com/mfwan/index.htm</A> <P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Enterprise</b> <br /><small>Member # 48</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,13,12,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 13, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:30 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The way I intrepret the thing with the Lexington is the way I also interpret the thing with the Farragut.<P>If I understand what someone told me, after the Nebula Farragut was destroyed (by the Klingons, I forget which ep of DS9) and the Dominion came calling, they recommissioned the old Excelsior Farragut....<P>------------------<BR>Brandon "Enterprise" Grasmick<BR>Commanding Officer, USS <I>Sovereign</I> (NCC-74222)<P>"Captain, the Sona crew are willing to negotiate a cease fire. It may have something to do with the fact that we have 3 minutes of air left."<BR>-- Worf<P><I>Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges</I><BR>-- In time of war the law falls silent. <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,14,5,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 14, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:07 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> There isn't really any proof that the Excelsior seen onscreen was the Farragut refered to, though.<P>------------------<BR>"Oh, it's an anti-anti-WTO song. It's essentially a pro-Starbucks song. I saw this picture of a guy sticking his foot through a plate-glass window in a Starbucks in Seattle, and he was wearing a Nike. Man, couldn't you just change your shoes?"<BR>--<BR>M. Doughty<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Bernd</b> <br /><small>Member # 6</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,15,7,56,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 15, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:56 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Honestly I wonder what Bev expected to hear. Maybe something like this: "There are currently 134 ships named Enterprise. Please narrow your search."<P>------------------<BR>"Species 5618, human. Warp-capable, origin grid 325, physiology inefficient, below average cranium capacity, minimum redundant systems, limited regenerative abilities."<BR><A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/" TARGET=_blank>Ex Astris Scientia</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Masao</b> <br /><small>Member # 232</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,15,20,17,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 15, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:17 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I'm pretty sure current USN rules prohibit two ships from having the same name. A ship has to be destroyed, decommissioned, or renamed for its name to be assigned to another ship. It would be too confusing to have several ships with the same name. Keeping track of the names shouldn't be that hard.<P>------------------<BR>When you're in the Sol system, come visit the <A HREF="http://www.uni-siegen.de/~ihe/bs/startrek/sfmuseum/" TARGET=_blank> Starfleet Museum </A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dat</b> <br /><small>Member # 302</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,15,21,23,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 15, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:23 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Though, I've never served time in the USN, I do know how they operate in this field of ship names. Masao's right, but the name must also be stricken from the Navy's list before it can be assigned to a new ship. So even though a ship has been decommissioned, it could still be sitting at a port for some years with the name still on the list and another ship can't be given the same name until the name is stricken from the list. Usually once the name becomes available the previous ship has been sold or scrapped. In some cases the previous ship has been converted and/or renamed or is in the process.<P>------------------<BR>7 alarm clock: "Do not touch me."<BR>Dilbert: "Then how do I turn you off?"<BR>7: "Believe me, I am plenty turned off."<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dat</b> <br /><small>Member # 302</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,4,15,21,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">May 15, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:27 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I must also add for an example the USS Constitution. The old wooden frigate Constitution is still in commission. Some years ago, the USN wanted to construct a cruiser with the name Constitution. Since the old one was still in service, it was renamed USS Old Constitution. The cruiser was cancelled so the old Constitution was named back to Constitution.<P>------------------<BR>7 alarm clock: "Do not touch me."<BR>Dilbert: "Then how do I turn you off?"<BR>7: "Believe me, I am plenty turned off."<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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