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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>USS Vanguard</b> <br /><small>Member # 130</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,19,11,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 19, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:20 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I've always heard of this ship as being the Vulcan vessel in an early DS9 ep. However, I can't seem to find if it is canon or not. Various ship lists sometimes list it, but others do not. So, i guess my question is, was this name mentioned on screen? or is it figment of someone's imagination?<P>------------------<BR>"Homer, you're dumb as a mule and twice as ugly,<BR>if a strange man offers you a ride, I say take it"-Abe S.<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,19,12,22,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 19, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:22 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The ship was mentioned in DS9 "Vortex". <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>USS Vanguard</b> <br /><small>Member # 130</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,19,14,45,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 19, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:45 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> So i'm guessing this would be the SS T'vran. hmm, seems odd that its not the Star Trek: Expanded list...<P>------------------<BR>"Homer, you're dumb as a mule and twice as ugly,<BR>if a strange man offers you a ride, I say take it"-Abe S.<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dat</b> <br /><small>Member # 302</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,19,17,19,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 19, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:19 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> That list is horribly out of date even though it seems to be updated every month or so. I don't think the maintainer adds new entries anymore or even modifies any existing ones. He probably changes that modified date and uploads the same previous copy otherwise. And if he does make some changes, they're probably spelling or link corrections.<P>------------------<BR>Teddy Roosevelt: "Speak softly and carry a big stick."<BR>Yosemite Sam: "Well, I speak loudly and I carry a bigger stick...and I use it too!" <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>USS Vanguard</b> <br /><small>Member # 130</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,19,18,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 19, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:46 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I think it just skipped this one, since it really isn't that out of date (up to Unimatrix O), it just has some quirks, like including some weirder source material (AKA Pathways and Mosaic).<P>------------------<BR>"Homer, you're dumb as a mule and twice as ugly,<BR>if a strange man offers you a ride, I say take it"-Abe S.<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Alpha Centauri</b> <br /><small>Member # 338</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,20,10,51,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 20, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:51 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I can remember regularly sending updates to Creighton for his Ships:Expanded list. At first, he was happy to receive them, and updated his list accordingly. But the last times, I got zero response, even though it were massive contributions. He didn't even updated the list.<BR><P>------------------<BR><BR> ALPHA CENTAURI<P>Human Class - Starfleet registry NCC-75715<BR>Launched stardate 8311.23 - Parental Biology Yards<BR>United Federation of Planets<P>"A dedication motto? What about it?" - Alpha Centauri<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Identity Crisis</b> <br /><small>Member # 67</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,21,6,10,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 21, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:10 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The T'van is in the Star Trek Ships: Expanded list. It's on the page: <A HREF="http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~djc/startrek/expand/yothers1.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.cs.umanitoba.ca/~djc/startrek/expand/yothers1.html</A> <P>Vulcan ships are listed as Others not as UFP:Starfleet. Which makes perfect sense to me. <P>------------------<BR>-->Identity Crisis<--<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Alpha Centauri</b> <br /><small>Member # 338</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,21,8,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 21, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:43 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> That does make sense indeed, but civilian ships (with 'S.S.' prefixes) are non-Starfleet too, while they are still omitted in the Starfleet list.<P><BR>------------------<BR>"And as we all know, a mesolytic quantumvector resonator is commonly <BR>used to polarize isogravitic plasma-flux manifolds."<P>Starfleet Academy's Redshirt Guide to the Starfleet, 62nd edition, <BR>2376.<p>[This message has been edited by Alpha Centauri (edited August 22, 2000).] <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Identity Crisis</b> <br /><small>Member # 67</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,21,9,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 21, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:37 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Can you give examples of ships that are missing? Those ships I could think of (the Xhosa, Santa Maria, Mariposa, Vico, etc.) are all listed. <P>The only thing that seems uncertain is why some are in the Others list and why some are in the Starfleet list.<BR><P>------------------<BR>-->Identity Crisis<--<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Joshua Bell</b> <br /><small>Member # 327</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,21,14,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 21, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:35 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Joe Creighton is, like most of us, a busy guy. I know he tries to respond to all of the email about the lists he gets (and he CC's me on some questions, since I technically am co-author of the Expanded list, though he does 99% of the work). If he missed responding to you, please don't ascribe to malice what can be better explained by being overworked.<P>Joshua<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Alpha Centauri</b> <br /><small>Member # 338</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,7,22,8,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">August 22, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:25 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> If I sounded a bit harsh, that was not my intention. You and Joe do a pretty good job with the Expanded list.<P>------------------<BR>"And as we all know, a mesolytic quantumvector resonator is commonly <BR>used to polarize isogravitic plasma-flux manifolds."<P>Starfleet Academy's Redshirt Guide to the Starfleet, 62nd edition, <BR>2376. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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