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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,8,14,13,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 14, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:03 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I've saw the model of this ship at the Star Trek World Tour. Today I've heard rumors that the Valkyrie is the ship from "Redemption". Does anyone know more about this?<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fitz8472.hypermart.net" TARGET=_blank>"Second star to the right, and then straight on till morning."</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Starship Freak</b> <br /><small>Member # 293</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,8,14,15,38,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 14, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:38 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, Pedro at: <A HREF="http://www.shiporama.org/constellation.htm" TARGET=_blank>http://www.shiporama.org/constellation.htm</A> <BR>seems to be pretty sure about it. His reasoning sounds good to me. He also states that USS Victory was seen in TNG "Elementary, dear Data", anyone got any screencaps?<P>------------------<BR>"The Starships of the Federation are the physical, tangible manifestations of Humanity�s stubborn insistence that life does indeed mean something."<BR> Spock to Leonard McCoy in "Final Frontier"<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Spike</b> <br /><small>Member # 322</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,8,15,8,46,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 15, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:46 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Well, there are a few other starships in my shiplist without epsiode:<P>USS Endeavour NCC-1895 Constitution-Class<BR>USS Essex NCC-1697 Constitution-Class<BR>USS Hiroshima Steamrunner-Class<BR>USS Hokkaido Renaissance-Class<BR>USS Kongo NCC-1710 Constitution-Class<BR>USS Rabin <BR>NCC-63646 Akira-Class<P>In which episodes did this ships appear?<P>------------------<BR><A HREF="http://fitz8472.hypermart.net" TARGET=_blank>"Second star to the right, and then straight on till morning."</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Timo</b> <br /><small>Member # 245</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,8,15,9,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 15, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:08 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The Hokkaido is just a written reference from the TNG Tech Manual, and hasn't been used on screen. The Constitutions in turn are holdovers from the original list of names used in the TOS writers' manual, mangled by multiple treksperts so that nobody can really tell which name should go with which number any more. It is highly likely that Okuda used these names in Okudagrams in the movies he was involved with (ST4 onwards) or in TV episodes, but I do not know where exactly these would have appeared.<P>The Rabin seems to be something dreamed up by the Fact Files for their Akira class article. The Hiroshima seems to be a miscommunication regarding the identity of a Steamrunner CGI used in "First Contact" - apparently, Okuda erroneously thought that this name was used, while in fact only "USS Appalachia" was used; and in the latest edition of the Encyclopedia, Okuda reputedly withdraws the Hiroshima name. <P>Then again, the Rabin and the Hiroshima may have been actual names used for "First Contact" CGI ships, or at least names originally chosen by the designers of the ships but later abandoned. We just don't know who *would* know - Eaves? Jaeger? Okuda?<P>Timo Saloniemi<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TSN</b> <br /><small>Member # 31</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,8,15,12,7,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 15, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:07 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> And the NCC-63646 doesn't exist. It's what some people originally read the <i>Thunderchild</i>'s registry to be. It got spread all over the Internet and shows up in places w/o reference, so people still propogate it, not knowing what it is. But, in actuality, it's a mistake.<P>------------------<BR>"It's like the Star of David or something. But without the whole Judaism thing."<BR>-Frank Gerratana, 17-Aug-2000 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>nx001a</b> <br /><small>Member # 291</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,8,16,5,57,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 16, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:57 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> So how many steamrunner and akira class ships are there suppose to be including the class ships of course. <P>------------------<BR>"We set sail on this new sea because their is new knowledge to be gained and new rights to be won" John F Kennedy<P> <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/mfwan/index.htm" TARGET=_blank>members.aol.com/mfwan/index.htm</A> <P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2000,8,17,16,36,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">September 17, 2000</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:36 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> No one knows.<P>In fact, for almost every class, that number simply doesn't exist.<P>------------------<BR>love's function is to fabricate unknownnness<BR>--<BR>E. E. Cummings<BR>****<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/1247/story.html" TARGET=_blank>Read chapter one of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet"! And party everyday.</A><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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