1) When Starfleet loses the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-Z, will they commission a new Enterprise? They might decide to "retire" the name. Also, if they do, are they going to have the NCC-1701-A1 or -AA or give her a new registry?
2) Is it possible the Enterprise -1701 is not the first Starfleet starship to carry the name? Fairly reliable information hints that Series V will feature a ship named Enterprise, and I'd be willing to speculate that it won't be the TOS Enterprise we all know and love, which means that either ...
a) It's an Earth ship named Enterprise, and Starfleet has not yet been formed.
b) The Enterprise in TOS is actually the SECOND ship to feature the name, but has a different registry.
3) Does Starfleet go through ships as fast as they seem to go through Enterprises? I mean, we're on the sixth Enterprise ... is it just me, or do these ships seem to have a rather high rate of loss? Granted, we don't know when the Enterprise-B was lost (or how), but if we know when the E-C was launched, we can at least pinpoint about when the E-B was destroyed/lost/decomissioned ...
Okay, I'm done rambling now.
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It's like SW:Ep I, we know what happened before and after 1701-B, but not during.
I think the need or interest in resurrecting the name Enterprise will be gone by Ent-G. Of course, if Trek dies after the last series and the last TNG-film, Ent-E will be the last Enterprise... Quite interesting actually, Star Wars and Star Trek are both phenomena not previously encountered in the history of entertainment, so we have nothing to compare to.
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His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
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With the E-B thought, it would not be like that unless they put in a teen crew and has a big battle every two minutes
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That said...
There WA a space ship prior to the TOS Enterprise (and after the space shuttle). Decker shows five pcitures to robot-Ilia on the wall of the rec-room in TMP. One is of an unknown ship (it was either the fifth, or, if the 1701 was the fifth, it was the forth.) Anyone have a good screen-cap, or do we have to wait for the DVD?
Also, 6 in over 130 years isn't that bad, really. The Enterprise-A and D really let the side down though.
[This message has been edited by PsyLiam (edited February 18, 2001).]
Point being? This is pretty much a moot aspect, given that the Enterprise is the only ship allowed to have letters. No other ship will ever have this problem.
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"My Name is Elmer Fudd, Millionaire. I own a Mansion and a Yacht."
Psychiatrist: "Again."
Will an Enterprise after the Enterprise-Z keep the 1701 prefix or not?
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?
Maybe we'll see JeffKarrde's Enterprise-Z sooner than you think...
warbird: I'd prefer to have the new series set after Voyager et. al as well, but if there *has* to be a prequel, I'd rather it be set at the end of the 23rd century instead of the 22nd.
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quote:
the Enterprise is the only ship allowed to have letters.
The Relativity had a letter too.
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It wasn't real.
Why not?
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?
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One of TPTB (I forget which one) said in an interview that the new series wouldn't be pre-TOS, didn't he? What was the exact quote? What I'm getting at is that it may be Enterprise B after all, because that ain't pre-TOS.
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?
First, if this is true (which I don't know for sure), then one of two things might be determined here. Either Moore accidentally "blew the whistle" and then tried to cover it up, or he really did get misquoted. Either way, we're still back to square one. At this point, I really don't care anymore.
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?
By not real, I meant non-Starfleet. The Relativity was the ship from the season 4 finale of Voyager right? Wasn't that ship a fake?
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"And Mojo was hurt and I would have kissed his little boo boo but then I realized he was a BAD monkey so I KICKED HIM IN HIS FACE!"
-Bubbles
The Relativity was the 29th century Starfleet time ship from VOY Relativity (season 5).
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Here lies a toppled god,
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedestal,
A narrow and a turnip.
-Tleilaxu Epigram
Well, of course there's still hope, but just 'cuz this guy helped design the -E doesn't mean he'll be designing a TNG/DS9/VOY contemporary starship.
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"The candidate who slimed John McCain in the primaries and smeared Al Gore in the general election is now the president who pledges to elevate the nation's tone and bring civility to our discorse. Kind of like Michael Corleone brought peace to the mob by killing the heads of the other four families."
--Paul Begala, Is Our Children Learning?
At some point in her life, each USS Enterprise will either be close enough to respond to, or be the cause of, a problem it can not solve.