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Posted by crobato on :

I am looking at the ship profiles page of the upcoming Dominion Wars game (a tactical starship simulation by Simon and Shuster.

The webpage is at:
http://www.simonsays.com/dominionwars_site/ShipProfiles.htm

If you look at the upper row where the Fed starships are, there are five designs, of which only two have been marked (Defiant and Steamrunner class). The other three are left on silhouette shadow. One can assume that the Class 3 Federation Starship is the Akira class and the Class 5 Federation Starship is the Galaxy class. But what is the Class 4 Fed Starship? It seemed to have an Intrepid type saucer but the pylons seems suggestively pointing downward. Is this the Intrepid, or quite possibly an Intrepid variant, most likely to be the Yeager class.

From the Starfleet Ship Designs web page, the text on the Yeager goes like this:

"A new class of ship has been seen in some recent episodes of Deep Space 9; this has been referred to by Paramount as the "Yeager-class." It is made up of an Intrepid-type saucer, a Maquis raider primary hull, and two engine nacelles...

The new Deep Space Nine Technical Manual has a diagram of this ship (described as simply an "Intrepid-class Starship Variant"). "

Given the DS9 background of the game, I am thinking that it may be the Yeager class starships.

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :

I took a look, and IMO it's just the Intrepid. The nacelles don't appear to be "drooping" to me -- it's just a trick of the angle. Plus, the aft section is way too thin to be a Maquis raider-style hull design.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Hmm... while I'll grant that the silhouette is a little funny if it was an Intrepid, one would assume that the "tailfins" on the back of the C-type Raider would be visible from this angle, which they aren't...

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

Besides, in this image:
http://www.simonsays.com/dominionwars_site/ShipScale.htm

The Intrepid-lookalike is called the "Achillies-class". New design!

Mark

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Posted by crobato on :

Golly I should have checked that! I wonder what these Achilles ships would do. Post Intrepid technology!

Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :

Oh my God. . . they have the Steamrunner as a super-Defiant. . .

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

And they show the Sabre as being half the size of the dDefiant. It'd be like a big Runabout.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

That's not why it shown so small. It's because it fall in the same catagory. Look at the Keldon/Galor class. They are the same size, also in the game from what I've seen in screenshots.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

Ahhhhh.

Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :

Oh thank goodness. I was afraid they were going to try to make the Keldon into a fighter of some kind...

Achilles class, huh? Sounds cool!

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

Wanna bet it has a weak spot in its aft shields or something?

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

*ponders dominion "war games"*

1 - Send out two task forces

2 - Tell both sides the other is defecting

3 - Note which side wins and why

4 - Incorporate the superior preferences into main fleet

5 - Make more Jem'Hadar and Vorta

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Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

You are truly evil for a turnip-lover, you know!

I wonder if Fed wargames are all like "Peak Performance": "I see Cmdr Smartaz survived the battle against the Nebula in that dinky Miranda of his. Now we can downgrade the fleet one step further and require every captain to be capable of the same. See to it that we transfer Smartaz to an Oberth for his next tournament. There could be major savings ahead - we have hundreds of those in storage after my predecessor fell for that stupid marketing trick."

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

That's something to consider - in thirty years of Star Trek, we've seen that Starfleet consistently wins engagements when equipped with inferior ships and technology. Where's the impetus to upgrade?

Mark

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :

In some cases, Starfleet just doesn't have the tech to match the other, I would think.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

But if Starfleet _would_ have put effort into creating a battle fleet, they'd kick Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian butt at the same time. Just look at the Defiant, which is acording to Dukat the most powerfull warship in the Alpha Quadrant (Okay, the Rommies and Klingon are mostly in the Beta Quadrant).

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :

I'm just hoping that in this game they won't go overboard with all the special weapons they tend to add to these games. Does this annoy anyone else here? I mean, they're added mostly to make the game more visually exciting to the average player, but they destroy the sense of Trek technology that we know and love as a consequence. This is probably one of the few reasons I liked "Starfleet Academy" a lot amongst more advanced games - it's got the least new technology introduced ever in a Trek game IMO.

Mark

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :

Yes... that's one of the chief reasons I am not buying either Armada or Elite Force. (Well, Armada isn't available for Mac anyway, but if it WERE...

) Some of those little bonus weapons are laughably absurd. Photon grenade blasters or whatever with Elite Force and all those crazy superweapons that Starfleet NEVER, EVER (nor anyone else) used in Armada...

That's why I'm really looking forward to the new "Starfleet Command" game -- it appears that they stick fairly closely to the standard Trek methods of combat.

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Posted by Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs (Member # 239) on :

They've got Drones, and Missiles and fighters. Oh My!

Actually, it's more 'realistic' as compared to Armada, or whatnot.

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

From the descriptions I saw on the webpage they've got pretty normal weapons in Dominion Wars (except maybe for the spiral wave thingies on the Cardassian ships). But it looks like they're not going to create very weird weapons.

One thing I don't understand is why the Defiant is so damn slow (full impuls speed).

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