to restate the question
if these doors slide open.....hmmmmmmmm
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No continuity even in the set design!
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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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Ace
"Objects in mirror are closer than they appear."
Hmmm. I've actually got this image of whomever is sitting at that desk getting smacked by the door opening into the office.
"OW! Dammit, Janeway, I told you not to use that entrance!"
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To all Harry-Fans: I meant no disrespect against Harry and have nothing against the stupid little creature. Thanks and enjoy the show.
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Perhaps it opens completely to the left, without splitting.
I AM SO FUCKING PISSED OFF AT THIS COMPLETE AND DISRESPECTFUL SLAP IN THE FACE OF STAR TREK FANS EVERYWHERE! RICK BERMAN AND BRANNON BRAGA ARE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE! (NOT THE WRITERS, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, AND NIETHER DO THE EP'S AT UPN, USURPING DECISIONS IN ORDER TO 'MAKE ENTERTAINING TV'!) THEY LIKE TO HAVE COW SEX!
THE FUCKING DOORS IN THE CORNER OF SICKBAY WHICH WE NEVER SEE AREN'T ABLE TO OPEN! STAR TREK SUCKS NOW, AND BERMAN CAN GO EAT A BAG OF HELL!
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"Instructed by history and reflection, Julian was persuaded that, if the diseases of the body may sometimes be cured by salutary violence, neither steel nor fire can eradicate the erroneous opinions of the mind."
-Edward Gibbons, The Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire.
I tried to open that door in Elite Force, even with the photon launcher. The result was killing the guy next to the computer console and a bunch of Starfleet personel materializing in front of me with the phaser rifles that started shooting me. Damn I hate that part...
Anyway, I think that the door leads to either a lab or a verticle Jeffries Tube. That or it is a closet. Can anyone read what the door signage says?
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"I write messages on money.
It's my own form of social protest.
A letter printed on paper that no one will destroy.
Passed indiscriminantly across race, class, and gender lines
and written in the blood that keeps the beast alive
A quiet little hijacking on the way to the checkout counter.
and a federal crime.
I hope that someone will find my message one day when they really need it.
Like I do."
-Rage against the Machine
Umm. Or then these are the only non-sliding doors in Starfleet (apart from those back in the cadet dormitory of SF Academy), and you simply push them, saloon door style. They provide spiritual satisfaction to doctors - when they lose a patient (or patience), they can actually slam a door, which is a pleasure available to very select few in Starfleet.
Timo Saloniemi
In reality, that IS a huge set Snafu.
In the end you see Fat Bastard coming into Austin's pad using a very unconventional method of entering. I believe that would work here as well!! ;-)
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Kryten: Pub? - Ah yes. A meeting place where people attempt to achieve
advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of
fermented vegetable drinks. - Red Dwarf "Timeslides"
ingame as long as you don't kill anybody
you can use your phaser and draw your innitials everywhere!!!
the doctor won't go:"...hey! stop messing up the carpet!"
anyway once you do kill somebody-i suggest you run down the corridors-you'll live longer-or hide in your own quarters or something-any starfleet officer coming through the door to get you-you can just pick-em off with your rifle...next after the 5th starfleet officer went down-they'll start beaming in.
and if you want to take out the bridge crew-spawn yourself the tetryon pulse gun-use second fire and stand in a corner and spray in a good manner to cover half the bridge-pausing in the center to make sure that Janeway went down already---you should be able to kill off most of the commanding officers along with 1/3 of the bridge crew before tuvock or harry gets you.
whoa!!!!!
sorry-if that sounded like i should be put away
hehehehhehehehehehhehe
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8472: The problem with the door isn't what's behind it, it's the fact that there is no wall room on either side of the door for it to open. It would have ot go up, down or come forward like an ironing board. We've never seen standard doors do that. Plus there's clearly a seem in the middle of the door where it's supposed to slide.
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But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
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To know a thing well, know its limits. Only when pushed beyond its tolerances will true nature be seen.
The Amtal Rule (Dune)
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And one day we will die
And our ashes will fly from the aeroplane over the sea
But for now we are young
Let us lay in the sun
And count every beautiful thing we can see
Love to be
In the arms of all I'm keeping here with me
- Jeff Magnum
(like the "Guardian Angels" that carries a butterfly-knife covered by sticky-tape, so that it isn't considered a weapon!)
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I don't recall seeing it in use, nor ever noticed it before. It's pretty bad space filler though. Since the doors require two people pulling them open at the sides I'm not sure how'd they do it.
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Federation Starship Datalink: Brand new look, fresh minty scent, same great taste!
the fancy doors are there probably just to trick the hostile aliens that takeover the ship every week or two.
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[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited April 04, 2001).]
On that particular set of doors though. Whew. Who designed that set? Didn't they see the problem there when they began building it? Or maybe they look at it the way my high school's stage advisor looks at it:
"Hell, the cast ain't usin' it, and it's not like anyone's going to notice unless they look hard."
Unfortunately, we nitpickers look REALLY hard.
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Michael_T
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Kryten: Pub? - Ah yes. A meeting place where people attempt to achieve
advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of
fermented vegetable drinks. - Red Dwarf "Timeslides"
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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com
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At that point, McDonald fired his gun three times in the air to emphasize his point. The crowd, estimated at 350,000, loudly cheered the new candidate.
"Let me make this clear: I am the law! I am your ruler! And you will have fries with that, motherf*cker!"
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Kryten: Pub? - Ah yes. A meeting place where people attempt to achieve
advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of
fermented vegetable drinks. - Red Dwarf "Timeslides"
AAARRRGGG!!!
I'm going with the "slide to the left" faction.
And then I'm going quietly insane.
How did they ever let this get by? I had the same problem in one of my compartments - and I noticed it right away.
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imagin running full force into one of these elastic doors
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Kryten: Pub? - Ah yes. A meeting place where people attempt to achieve
advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of
fermented vegetable drinks. - Red Dwarf "Timeslides"
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"Let me ask you something, Mr. Garibaldi, a purely philosophical question. On a scale of 1 to 10, how stupid do you think I am anyway?" - Bester
Federation Starship Datalink: Brand new look, fresh minty scent, same great taste!
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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com
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"Oh, yes, screw logic, let's go for a theory with no evidence!"
-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
Anyway, reguarding those doors, you can see the split down the middle... maybe they collapse on our right, into the wall, and just slide like normal on the left. Hang on, how do we even know that the doors don't just collapse in on themselves (in the wall) normally!?! We've never seen INSIDE the wall when the door is open have we? Just because it slides along intact 'in the real world' doesn't mean it does in the Trek world. Maybe someone could as Rick Sternbach?? Or who ever would design the sets, Herman Zimmerman?
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
IIRC, that is. Am I imagining things?
Timo Saloniemi
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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com
imagine during "Q-who" a borg drone being mislead that an art piece is a console and ends up trying to collect valueble data from it.
worf:"sir...what is that borg doing? he has been scannig that painting for hours?"
Picard:"hmmmmm....i may be wrong but they must be art collectors of the deltaqaudrent"
worf:"well then Q is certaintly wrong in thinking this will frighten us!"
--Jonah
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--Col. Edwards, ROBOTECH
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On TNG, where do the interior turbolift doors go?
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-George W. Bush on forging new Anglo-American ties
Has anyone considered that the infamous Voyager Sickbay door slides entirely to the left? Please consider the following:
The panel on the right slides LEFT and just behind the left-side panel. (Granted, the right-side panel would have to move �back� a tad before sliding over to the left.)
Next, both doors, now �back to back,� would slide even further to the left, moving entirely into the left-side wall and out of sight.
This would, presumably, occur within a second or so�
Dan
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
It's a set goof. Those doors aren't functional on the set, they exist as "dressing." It's a goof, the designer should be forced to put false doors in his own home.
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Nimrod, 04-04-01.
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As for the turbolift doors, they go with the outer doors into the walls.
--Jonah
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-Omega 11:48am, Jan. 19th, 2001
Mark
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- Carl Sagan, "Contact"
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Gene Ray
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Never give up. Never surrender.
But returning to that infamous door, perhaps it slides like the Defiant doors. Granted the doors look like they split in half, could slide to the side.
I hope it's not an inside joke with the set designer though...
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Michael_T
--Jonah
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"It's obvious I'm dealing with a moron..."
--Col. Edwards, ROBOTECH
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!
The panel on the right begins to slide LEFT, moving into a position just behind the left-side panel. (Granted, the right-side panel would have to move �back� a tad before sliding over to the left.)
At the same time, the left-side door panel is also moving to the left, so both doors would simultaneously move into the left-side wall and out of sight, ultimately stopping in a �back to back� position.
In this scenario, the right-side door panel will be moving to the left at a greater rate of speed than the door panel on the left.
See? Simple!
Dan
Prakesh: I noticed the TOS com panels on Amargosa!!
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"The sons of the Prophet were valiant and bold,
And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
Aban's Illustration www.alanfore.com
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Faster than light - no left or right.
True, we have never seen a door operate this way in the Trek universe. But likewise, we have no evidence that doors �flex� or dematerialize inside bulkheads.
The set design is obviously a screw-up. Whether they did it deliberately (to see who would notice) or by pure accident, who knows? I look at it from the standpoint that we are now left to figure out how this door would actually work in the existing set. (Yeah, I know, I need a life!)
Not to sound conceded, but I believe that my solution is the best compromise. It works within the existing set design and it is as close to a �standard� sliding Trek door as one can get. Besides, I have seen one or two doors designed this way on a few Trek blueprints. (Thus, I can�t really take credit for coming up with this idea on my own.)
Regarding the turbolift doors: These doors likely function the same way that TMP cargo pod doors operate, as Mark Nguyen has previously pointed out. The turbo car would have to be in its �station,� and then the doors would slide out (straight, mind you) into the ship�s bulkhead. Though this may not be a very �practical� design, it would not necessarily be complicated to engineer.
Dan
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Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.
Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.
Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown!