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<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="1" width="95%" align="center"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"><td> <table border="0" width="100%" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"> <tr bgcolor="#234c6f"> <td colspan="2" align="left"> <font size="3" color="#FFFFFF" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>T O P I C ��� R E V I E W</b> </font></td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>jamesdwright@prodigy.net</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,14,0,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 14, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:25 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Can someone tell me how well armed with disrupters the Klingon Battlecruisers seen in Star Trek the Motion Picture were? Why have these Battlecruisers stayed in service for so long?<P>JDW<P>------------------<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>TheF0rce</b> <br /><small>Member # 533</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,14,1,37,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 14, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">01:37 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> you mean the ones later seen in ds9?<BR>well we don't really know if they were even the same class as the katinga ones in TMP<P>bird of preys been in service with a multitude of classes since forever <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Psi'a Meese</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,14,17,8,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 14, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:08 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> TMP blueprints show the ship having eight sonic-disrupter mounts.<P>Two to either side of the forward command pod; four between the warp nacelles-two forward/two aft-underside of the engineering hull; two topside of the engineering hull to either side of the hanger bay.<P>------------------<BR>Purrr... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Matrix</b> <br /><small>Member # 376</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,14,17,20,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 14, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:20 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> To count so far there are 12 Bird of Prey types from k-1 to K-12 which the Duras sisters had in Generations and of course that ship was also obsolete so I'm assuming that the current line would be about K-18 to K-20<P>I personaly like to believe that the K'Tinga class is the D-7 design and the TMP design. The D-7 class in TOS was perhaps the 7th type for the K'Tinga class. The one in TMP was maybe D-8 or D-9. The difference between a D-8 and a D-9 might not be apparent by Klingon designers might have restructured the interior slightly to mount bigger/smaller disruptors. My two cents...<P>Doesn't the DS9 TM say something like 6 disruptors and 2 torp. tubes?<P>------------------<BR>Signature for sale! For a mere price of $20 per letter you get this wonderful little space to say your own things. Get it now while there's still space!<P>-All you base belong to infinity. -infinity11<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Michael Dracon</b> <br /><small>Member # 4</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,14,17,43,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 14, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:43 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Kang said in the DS9 episode 'Once More Onto The Breach' that he worked on a D-5 class battlecruiser (I'm not quoting, I only know the D-5 classification for sure).<P>Now wasn't Kang also in some TOS episode or one of the movies??<P>------------------<BR>"We have a good arrangement. He supplies the weapons, I use them."<BR>- Blade<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Matrix</b> <br /><small>Member # 376</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,14,17,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 14, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:47 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I think he was in TOS, DS9 and VOY. I know the episode in Voyager was in Flashback. When the Excelsior was in a Nebula and Kang was in one of the battlecruisers hunting down the Excelsior.<P>------------------<BR>Signature for sale! For a mere price of $20 per letter you get this wonderful little space to say your own things. Get it now while there's still space!<P>-All you base belong to infinity. -infinity11<P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Shik</b> <br /><small>Member # 343</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,14,18,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 14, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:27 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The D-5 was a not-so-subtle reference to Kor's (it was Kor who made the ref, mind you) ship, the <I>Klothos</I>, in the TAS episode "The Time Trap."<P>------------------<BR>"For people with resources, the right events <I>happen</I>. They may look like coincidences, but they arise out of necessity." --T�rk Hviid<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Michael Dracon</b> <br /><small>Member # 4</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,15,16,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 15, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">04:59 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Oh, right... Kor... Sorry!<P>------------------<BR>"We have a good arrangement. He supplies the weapons, I use them."<BR>- Blade<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Sol System</b> <br /><small>Member # 30</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,16,0,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 16, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">12:35 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Sonic disruptors? There's a neat trick.<P>------------------<BR>"Excuse me, Mr. Rampaging Killer? Why don't you put down the gun and take a look at this <I>hand-held monkey</I>? Does it not have clever little forepaws? It eats gum and sap!"<BR>--<BR>L. Fitzgerald Sj�berg<BR>****<BR><A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/simsizer/chapter1.html" TARGET=_blank>Read three (three!) chapters of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet" and something pleasent will happen to you. Possibly involving syrup.</A><P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Psi'a Meese</b> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,16,2,11,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 16, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:11 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Sonic disruptors? There's a neat trick.<BR>--------------------------------------------<P>Oh, I know. Just quoting what the blueprints say. <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>------------------<BR>Purrr... <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>The_Tom</b> <br /><small>Member # 38</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,16,3,59,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 16, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:59 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Two points<P>1) Swooshing spaceships aside, I really can't see sonic disruptors being much use in a vaccum.<P>2)The Generations BoP was D-12, not K-12, implying (as I see it) that Starfleet Intelligence uses a D + a number system to refer to Klingon spacecraft, akin to the NATO Fulcrum/Foxbat/F-anything system for MiGs...<P>------------------<BR>"I can be creative when I have a good idea. That just happens way too rarely."<BR>-Omega, April 6 <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Harry</b> <br /><small>Member # 265</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,16,14,39,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 16, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">02:39 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> How the hell does anything 'sonic' work in space?<P>------------------<BR>"Fuck L Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones.<BR>Fuck all those gun-toting<BR>hip gangster wannabes."<BR>-Tool, Ænima<P>---<BR><A HREF="http://fleetyard.virtualave.net" TARGET=_blank>Titan Fleet Yards - Harry Doddema's Star Trek Site</A><P> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Mucus</b> <br /><small>Member # 24</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,16,15,21,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 16, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:21 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The way I see it, there are two possibilities.<P>a) BS Rationalization: Transporters beam air into the space between the vessels, a reversed ramscoop pumping out hydrogen might also do the trick, or it can only fire while manuvering in a planet's atmosphere....or maybe in the 24th century there actually is air in outer space which explains why we can hear weapons fire, music, and nifty starship "whooshing" as stated before...*breath*<P><BR>b) They fucked up. <P>------------------<BR>"The Guide says that there is an art to flying...or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Life, the Universe and Everything<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>PsyLiam</b> <br /><small>Member # 73</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,16,17,25,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 16, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">05:25 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Are the K'tingas from DS9 onwards (ignoring "The Emmisary") the same size as the TMP and STVI K'Tingas? Or is it like the different sized BOP's that we get?<P>------------------<BR>You know, when Comedy Central asked us to do a Thanksgiving episode, the first thought that went through my mind was, "Boy, I'd like to have sex with Jennifer Aniston."<BR><I>-Trey Parker, co-creator of South Park </I> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Timo</b> <br /><small>Member # 245</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,18,8,30,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 18, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">08:30 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The DS9 visuals would seem to place the battlecruisers in the roughly same size range - 200-250m or so. The DS9 TM offers much larger dimensions, but that's mainly because of an easily traceable error that didn't originate from the actual filmed material. So I'd say the ships are supposed to be of the same size throughout the shown history.<P>As for "sonic disruptors" - well, that's the type of weaponry the Eminians used against the orbiting Enterprise in "A Taste of Armageddon". The guns generated something like, what, thousands of decibels? With that much oomph (you couldn't create a thousand decibels if you detonated the entire nuclear arsenal of Earth next to your ear - the best mankind has done so far is about 300 dB, using an exotic gas-jet system), something is going to give... Why not the laws of physics? <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"><P>Timo Saloniemi <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,18,11,42,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 18, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">11:42 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> They really made the Kronos-1 look big, evil and menacing in ST:VI, while it AAMOF was about 60-70 meters smaller than the Enterprise refit? Ha!<P>And comparing the K'Tinga to the Excelsior class, they must've been severely outclassed for a long time. I can't believe it took them several generations to crank out the Vor'Cha...<P>------------------<BR>Don't kill me, I'm charming!<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Matrix</b> <br /><small>Member # 376</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,18,19,27,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 18, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">07:27 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Maybe they were built in numbers.<P>------------------<BR>Signature for sale! For a mere price of $20 per letter you get this wonderful little space to say your own things. Get it now while there's still space!<P>-All you base belong to infinity. -infinity11<P><BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>akb1979</b> <br /><small>Member # 557</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,21,18,47,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 21, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:47 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The only reason we can hear starships make "whooshing" sounds as well as the explosions and such is because if we couldn't, we'd all be really really really bored.<P>Why? Well put it this way; would you watch a sci-fi program where all the cool battle scenes were silent? No? Did I hear you say no? Exactly, I rest my case.<P>Pardon? I can't hear you . . . we're in a vacuum! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/smile.gif"> Hehe! <IMG SRC="http://flare.solareclipse.net/wink.gif"> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Dax</b> <br /><small>Member # 191</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,22,9,3,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">09:03 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> I've heard that the studio model for Kronos One was especially built from scratch rather than being a refurbishment of the TMP miniature. Can anyone confirm this or is my source telling fibs?<P>------------------<BR>"Life's too short to be pissed off all the time." (Danny Vinyard, American History X)<BR><A HREF="http://www.aceonline.com.au/~dax/index.htm" TARGET=_blank>Dax's Ships of Star Trek</A> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>AndrewR</b> <br /><small>Member # 44</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,22,10,0,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">10:00 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> AAMOF?<P>Can I just say I LOVE Kronos 1 from TUC...<P>------------------<BR>Homer: I'm gonna miss Springfield. This town's been awfully good to us.<BR> Bart: No, it hasn't, Dad. That's why we're leaving.<BR>Homer: Oh, yeah. [pokes his head out the window] So long, Stinktown! <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,22,15,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:16 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> The schematics differ somewhat from the original K'Tinga, but I think they only added some modules and textures, there were more paintings on her. I actually rewatched TUC two days ago, in WS for the first time.<P>------------------<BR>Don't kill me, I'm charming!<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,22,15,24,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 22, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:24 PM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <A HREF="http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/Ktinga.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/Ktinga.jpg</A> <BR> <A HREF="http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/KronosOne.jpg" TARGET=_blank>http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/KronosOne.jpg</A> <P>If you flip between the pictures quickly you spot the differences immediately.<P>------------------<BR>Don't kill me, I'm charming!<BR> <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#A3B9CC"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Timo</b> <br /><small>Member # 245</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,23,3,35,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 23, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">03:35 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> So Gorkon's ship has a "flag bridge" plus some sort of an additional thingamajig at the dorsal front surface of the aft hull...<P>The aft "torpedo tube" thingie is also different from model to model - there is a parabolic dish in Gorkon's ship, but a circular torpedo opening in the TMP ships and a complex angular structure in the "Flashback" ship flown by Kang. The ships usually seen in DS9 seem to have the "Flashback" stern structure.<P>One would think that Klingons would be in the habit of personally customizing their ships a lot. The basic spaceframes might run in the family for generations, with each warrior adding new gear as technology advanced and the fortunes of the House increased.<P>Timo Saloniemi <br /> </font> </td></tr> <tr bgcolor="#E5EAEF"> <td valign="top" width="18%"> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Nim</b> <br /><small>Member # 205</small> </font></td> <td width="82%"> <font size="2" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <img src="https://flare.solareclipse.net/posticon.gif" border="0" alt=" - " /> posted <script language="JavaScript1.3" type="text/javascript"> document.write(timestamp(new Date(2001,3,23,6,16,0), dfrm, tfrm, 0, 0, 0, 0)); </script><noscript><span class="dateformat-0">April 23, 2001</span> <span class="timeformat-0">06:16 AM</span></noscript><hr /> </font> <font size="3" face="Trebuchet MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Sounds cool. They undoubtedly have their own banners and family crests. <br /> </font> </td></tr> </table></td></tr></table> <br /> <br />
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