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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

OK, with all the talk about going backwards at Impulse, in Court Martial Spock orders "Forward Impulse Engines" to slow their decaying orbit, while Kirk is trying to fix the problems that Finney Had done to the ship.

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Were they implying here that firing forward-mounted impulse engines to slow down the ship would prevent decay of their orbit? Anything to slow them down would take them into a lower orbit, wouldn't it? You'd think that firing the usual engines in the back (pushing the ship forward) would be more beneficial.

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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :

Yes. Anything that would slow the ship down would increase the orbital decay, not decrease it.

Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :

As with many things nautical, "forward impulse engines" is a command to set the impulse engines to push the ship forward.

One of the little problems I have with Star Trek VI is the "aft thrusters" order when we see the ship start to move forward...

--Jonah

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Are there transcripts to these episodes, to get Spock's actual dialogue?

The picture on the viewscreen was of them falling directly towards the planet... Hmmmmm.

Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

This sounds like one of the early Star Trek submarine analogies, like those in Balance of Terror. In that ep, the "phasers" acted like torpedoes and the crew tiptoed around the ship to avoid being heard by the Romulans. This orbital decay sounds like a sub losing buoyancy and sinking.

Re: Transcripts. Yes! That's exactly what I mentioned earlier! It would make searching for dialogue a whole lot easier. By the way, Margaret Clark at the Simon and Schuster website mentioned in an answer to a question about Star Trek script books that all (?) TNG and DS9 episodes were out on disc by their sister company SST. Does anyone know anything more about this?

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Orbital decay is most assuredly not an attempt to get some submarine action on. See: Mir.

All the scripts from TNG and DS9 are available on CD here and here, respectively. I believe they're the shooting scripts in both cases.

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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :

Cool! Does anyone actually have these discs? From the customer reviews, the search function doesn't seem to work so well.

Anyways, my reference to submarines was about how the producers of Trek seemed to view orbital decay, not how it really is. I was implying that they believed orbital decay was similar to a submarine sinking to the bottom of the ocean, ie, that if you could stop your forward motion, you'd stop sinking.

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Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

Ah. I'll have to watch the episode in question again.

As far as the disks go, I've been meaning to get them. Perhaps sometime soon I will.

I think Boris has one or both.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Since the subject of transcripts has come back up, I'm using my new DVD drive to work on it. I'm int he process of doing "The Galileo Seven" right now. Here's what I have so far.

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