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Posted by BRUTUS on :

http://talk.trekweb.com/cgi-bin/msgboard.pl?bid=FldwoPP0qETo2&cid=s0WHaHHfIRWuc&tid=hmaVFv9FD/yMU&parent=0&target=s0WHaHHfIRWuc&sort=Newest%20Posts%20First&view=Nested%20Posts&date ]http://talk.trekweb.com/cgi-bin/msgboard.pl?bid=FldwoPP0qETo2&cid=s0WHaHHfIRWuc&tid=hmaVFv9FD/yMU&parent=0&target=s0WHaHHfIRWuc&sort=Newest%20Posts%20First&view=Nested%20Posts&dat e=Last%207%20Days#s0WHaHHfIRWuc

Has anyone posted about this before?

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Posted by BRUTUS on :

Thanks, found it now.

To the guy below, yeah I think you need to paste them into the location bar and enter them....though it didn't work once I'd already tried accessing them as a link. Ones I hadn't accessed worked when copy and pasting them...annoying

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

It's on the right, next to the big red cross.

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

I had posted a topic about this a while back. I knew that there was supposed to be a new model built for the Pegasus, and I knew it was supposed to have four nacelles. However, I didn't know that it was supposed to be a filmable model of the Cheyenne. The statements made in the episode about the Pegasus' systems being the testbed for the later Galaxy class ships would have made much more sense if they'd have used the Cheyenne model instead of the Oberth.

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Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :

The links at your link are not working......

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :

You know, Frank posted a 'cap of the screen showing us the supposed 4 nacelles, but the 'cap was rather small, not showing us much. Anyone got a bigger 'cap?

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

That has always boggled me. If they couldn't afford to build a filmable Cheyenne, why did they build a NEW model for the Oberth for this episode. They did you know...

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

I'd never heard that they built a new Oberth model for this ep, but it could've been alot more cost efficiant if that's true. Especially if they still had all the original molds and stuff that they used to construct the first one. When making 3-D stuff like that, making the molds is at least half the expense and time.

If they had constructed a Cheyenne model, they would've had to have built all new molds, or at least copied and modified some of the Galaxy Class molds before they could even start wiring, painting and decaling the ship.

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

I'm pretty sure it was a redress of the partially-obliterated Oberth model already made for "Hero Worship."

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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

AFAIK, it was a reuse of the model that was built for ST3. They just relabeled it and made an asteroid around the model.

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

The TNG Companion says it was a new model.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Tom: Except that the "Hero Worship" one had the front of the sacuer blown away, while, in "The Pegasus", that was one of the only parts we could see intact.

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :

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The TNG Companion says it was a new model.

I believe what the Companion said was that they had planned on building a new model for the Pegasus, but budgetary considerations forced them to use the already-existing Grissom model.

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Posted by BRUTUS on :

"Though Rick Sternbach readied sketches of a new ship based on Enterprise-"C"-era designs, budget forced the reuse of the Grissom model of ST III in unaltered form with the "rock" simply pressed in around it..."

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

A ha! thanks... my bad - I don't know why I remembered it as a new model... they must have done the model up then, because it looks more 'realistic' than when we usually see it. (the Oberth)

Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

Hopefully they were smart & ran out to get one of SFSM, vacuform Oberths a la Constellation in "The Decker Muncher" instead of wasting a shooting model.

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Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :

I have a picture of a Cheyenne-class starship. Unfortunately I am not too technical and do not know how to add a link here.

Sorry!

If you really want it that bad email me at: [email protected]

Anyone else want a pic of a starship - let me know and I'll see what I can do for you! My response may take some time though as I'm currently studying for exams. AAAAAARRRRRRRRRHHHH! The stress! HELP!

Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

If the image is already on a web site, just type out the address and it'll show up as a link. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it's a pic we've already seen.

Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

What about the Flare Upload function... I don't know how to get to it - but its GREAT if you don't have webspace of you're own... or you don't know how to put stuff on the web.

Andrew

Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :

http://flareupload.hypermart.net/psupload.htm

You can upload your pic here. Just search for you pic on your hard drive and click the button to upload.

The pic should be in this directory then. http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/

Once you've uploaded, it'll tell you the link to it. You can copy that link and paste it in your message like I told you before.

Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :

Many thanks PopMaze! AS you've guessed - I don't know much when it comes to the Internet and your help is greatly appreciated!

The links are;
http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/cheyenne.jpg
and http://flareupload.hypermart.net/files/galexploration_cheyenne.jpg

The first is a picture of a model and the other is a top and side view - similar to that of the Niagara-class USS Princeton on another section.

Hope that helps - and thanks again PopMaze for the sharing of your knowledge! What would I do without you?

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Hate to tell you this, but those are old news. The first is a popular picture of the model, but w/ the background turned into a starfield. And the diagram is from the Starship Scehmatics site. Not even accurate, as we've since determined.

Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :

Mmm, the diagram pic isn't accurate? Looks fairly close to me. Oh well, I tried my best - they are the most popular pictures on the Ney for the Cheyenne-class starship though. Anyone know of any 'better' ones?

Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :

Yes. Careful reconstruction has demonstrated that the nacelle pylons are much, much closer to being straight horizontal.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/cheyenne.htm

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