Check out Jackill's site. http://www.jackill.com A pre classic trek era book, and updated versions of his 1-3 books.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
That's prety cool... But does that mean I should try to sell my current volumes on eBay to make rooms for the updates..?
Mark
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Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
Mark: Sell them. Didn't someone mention that they paid a ridiculous amount for one on Ebay recently. Once the revised editions come out, you'll be out of luck.
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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Nahh - hang on to them. I use mine for reference, enjoyment, and imspiration.
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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
All good reasons - and that's exactly what I use mine for. However, seeing as how new and improved versions wil soon be available, and how I'm a grad student with no funding, it just may be the right thing to do.
Mark
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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :
Ack, Mark, don't sell them! Remember the lesson you learned when you sold me your copy of Dymamics? :-)
I can't believe Jackill is releasing a new book and updates! I'm so excited...does anyone have his email address? I used to have it a few years back, but have lost it since. His books are without a doubt my favorites, right up there with the Guenther and Schmidt collections!
We should all make an effort to keep each other apprised of these forthcoming books!
Thanks,
Lance
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Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
Although I have some "Jackill's Data Readouts", I have never seen one of these books you people are talking about. I guess they're good?
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Posted by Zor Prime on :
Yes, they are good. A bit cluttered, but full of nice info and pretty pictures. I saw the technical readouts at a convention but never got any. He even did some B5 stuff if I remember correctly. Gosh, I'd love to see them again. "Jackill" did an early book in 1992 or so that had Star trek and Star Wars light crafts, Battlestar Galactica stuff in it too. Then he made 3 Trek books full of old and new designs, including a nice version of Kobayashi Maru. They are all movie designs. No TNG stuff, unless you count Enterprise B.
Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :
Damned straight they're good, my man. I bought an original verion of volume 2 at a book store a few years ago, and couldn't believe the detail put into the Movie Era vessels illustrated therein. Since then, I have painstakingly collected all three revised volumes from eBay.com. I love Jackill's work, and consider his publications the very best in Treknology Fandom. If you like Guenther's (Mastercomm) Ships of the Starfleet series (volume one and two), you'll love Jackill's books.
Try hunting for them in book stores, card shops, conventions, or eBay.com.
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Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Couldn't agree more. We chatted on the phone some time ago (decades+), and my hat is off to him in terms of self-consistency, quality and sheer production.
His books share an honored place in my collection.
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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
Actually, I had a few minor gripes about Jackill's stuff.
Firstly, the ships' names. All-Terran, all the time. And almost always last names which seemed to have been picked largely at random out of a telephone book or something.
Second, everything in the later volumes had recycled names. Every ship that had been named was on the same list (all the cruisers were cruisers again, in essentially the exact same order), with a -B on the end of it.
Thirdly, it seemed as though half the Federation ships carried cloaking devices.
Other than that, though, they were just dandy.
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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
My thoughts exactly, First.
Although to be fair, I DID steal a couple of his classes for incorporation into my universe, but I think I only stole the names for them...& the design for only 1, the Swiften-class. But the rest of the names make great filler for tankers & cargo carriers.
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Posted by Yakaspat The Trekker (Member # 355) on :
I agree with your gripes, certainly. The names really are not very inventive. However, all the classes and the number of ships I have adopted into "my universe", how my only little view on how the Fleet of 2290's looks, which includes all Mastercomm, Schmidt, and Jackill ships.
Other than the names, I also discount only two classes, the Lobo Class Carrier, which is too damned ugly; the Oriskany Class, an ungly rendition of the Coronado; and the Hollingsworth Class Penetration Cruiser...the name and shape of the ship seem almost intentionally humorous.
So, to sum it up, other than the ship names, which I simply ignore and pretend they are more glamorous (Sheffield, Antiedam, Bunker Hill, Ironclad, Sierra, Beowulf, Explorer, Pioneer, etc), and the three classes I mentioned, Jackill's Star Fleet Reference Manuals totally are a must for any collector.
:-)
I can't wait for the new releases....
Lance
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