It's been slow lately and in addition I am bored. So what's your favorite class and what do you like about it?
I like the Connie refit because in the Slow Motion Pciture depsite being a bad movie, the ship was absolutely beautiful. The graceful lines yet retains alot of the design elements of the E-nil.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Galaxy class.
Best. Starship. Ever.
Mark
Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
TEH AKIRA C2LASS AS IT HAS TEH FIFETEEN TROP0ED)ES!!1!1 AND TEH BATTAL BRIDGE!!11 IT CAN DO WRAP 56, AND I SAWN IT ON TEH MOVIES WIHT FIST CONTACT!11
MY MOM SAIS TAHT "FIST CONTACT" IS NOT !!1= TEH STRAW TRACK MOVIES!! BUT I SNUCKS IN teh THETAR TO SEES IT!!1 AND I SEES AM AN DOING VARY WEERD THINGS TO A LADTY!!1 WIHT HIS WHOLE FSIT!! INTO HER!11 LIEK JARRY CAN EAT A WHOLE HAM IN HIS OWN MOTUHT!!1!!1
AKIRAS AER TEH BEST EVAR.
Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
Excelsior class. The lack of useless detailings on the hull and it's overall shape is very charming, IMHO.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Well...at the risk of being likened to UM's fan boy portrayal...I really did like the Akira class.. I thought the design was unique while still looking very Federation.I like the overslung portion of the hull that leads back to the aft pod. I just thought it was a nice, tough looking design.
Steamrunner and Saber were neat for the same reasons. They were different while still being familiar.
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
I'd have to say:
1) Galaxy 2) Sovereign 3) Prometheus 4) Ambassador 5) Nebula 6) Excelsior 7) Akira 8) Constitution - Movies I - VI 9) Defiant 10) Intrepid 11) Miranda 12) New Orleans 13) Nova 14) Constellation 15) Sabre 16) Oberth 17) Cheyenne 18) Norway
Did I miss any? Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
For. The. Love. Of. God.
*snort*
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
Defiant.
Tough little ship. Can give and take a pounding. Maneuverable. Fast.
No excessive luxury. No umpteen science labs. No exposed bridge module. No windows in vulnerable locations. No pencil-thin nacelle pylons. No fragile connecting necks.
These ships are built for one purpose only and they excel at it. A specialised design is always the better choice given any type of mission.
I think I let out the fanboy in me a bit Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
Canon- Ambassador. Period. Beats the E-D Anyday.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
OK. Case closed then. We can all go home boys.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I'm partial to the New Orleans. I like small ships, the "tin can fleet," as it were.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
So what are the best design features on your favorite ship design that you like?
Where I am coming from is that what people like about the ships either because it's cool looking or has something deeper than just the looks of the class.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
Well: Ambassador - That thing looks cool, and probably kicked some Romulan but at Narendara 4. It doesn't have the too-combatish looks f the Sovvies or the space hotel look of the Galaxies. Biult in the 2330's and still frontline in the 2370's, that is one hot piece of duranium.
Honorable mentions include, E-nil refit, Springfield, New Orleans, Cheyenne, Niagara, Galaxy, and Constellation.
Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
"Narendara 4"
You kick so much ass.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
I told you. I like small utilitarian ships. I like how manueverable they look, how "bursting at the seams" they usually are.
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i'm a big Ambassador fan, but i also love the Constitution (in any form), Miranda, Galaxy, Excelsior, Nebula and Constellation classes. i'm a pretty big fan of the Movie era ships, as they look much more realistic in my mind than the TNG ships, but i still love the Galaxy class and the related nebbie. to me, the Ambassador captures the utlititarian look of the Movie ships while also having the round, more progressive look of the TNG ships. I really wish they had put the Ambassador class ship in the end of Generations instead of the Nebula like they were originaly going to. *sigh* The Excelsior just looks muscled and rakish, to me. like it can take on anything. i love it. the scene where it pulls away from the Enterprise in Star Trek VI is really classic. The Connie is the Connie, and it is gorgeous and (in Movie form) realistic. The Galaxy just seems so confident, and seem to exude the fact that it is State of the Art. great ships, all of them.
--jacob
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Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
I personally like all the 23rd century ships for some reason. Maybe because they looked like they had power, unlike the Galaxy class and the related ships looked like they were space hotels or the Galactic hot rods. The 23rd century ships had the muscle, not the finese of the 24th century ships.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
It always seemed to me that after the Galaxy Class most everything has been turned into a supership because they made the Galaxy too good, being able to go up to warp 9.6, and resulting with just too high speed like warp 9.975. It would have been better if it sill went up to warp 10, but but the E-D would only have a top speed of 8.1 and having room to expand. In other words, the shouldn't have made such a technolgical leap between STVI and TNG, ao they could progress more understanably, in a sense. Have like the technology of the E-C on the E-D. You know what I mean.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Definately Excelsior- and Enterprise-class. Why? Because all angles look good.
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
I perfer a scale of the old Warp scale. Seeing that they cubed the Warp Factor, so Warp 2 was 8c and Warp 10 was 1000c and so on. They could have just used the 4th power for the TNG scale. If they wanted a limit, use Warp 100 as a limit.
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
The Excelsior class, Enterprise-B varient, of course. Those aren't extra shuttlebays, they're impulse engines! Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
How does BWC know what the ships look like? He can only listen to the Shows on casette, right?
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
I have the internet, bozo.
You know how Riker ordered Warp 13 in AGT? Here is a warp scale I devised. It would take the 3/4 of normal power to reach up to warp 6, the 1 1/2 to Warp 10, then 3 times to warp 13, then 6 times to warp 14 then 36 times normal power to get to warp 14.5, then almost infinte power to warp 14.51. Here is perliminary scale, without a bunch of info: http://lobotomy.pleh.net/~flareupload/uploads/818/warp1.jpg Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
That absolutely made no sense at all. Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
Except that one one top of the ship w/ the circle around it, making it look more like a bullseye than ever...
Posted by Woodside Kid (Member # 699) on :
I always liked the Miranda class; obviously a Federation ship, but just as obviously designed for a different type of mission than the Constitution. Unfortunately, the next movie gave us both the butt-ugly Exclesior and the what-were-they-smoking-when-they-designed-this Oberth classes.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
The Refit Constitution.
Because it looks like a REAL ship. It looks like you could actually walk it's corridors and stand on it's bridge, or look out a window. Fantastic design, fantastic model, fantastic ship.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
I agree with AndrewR. The connstitution refit rocks!
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Give me Nova. Sure, the sec hull is very wide from the front and back, but she's small and powerful.
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
1) Refit Constitution 2) Steamrunner 3) Excelcior 4) Ambassador 5) Constitution 6) Miranda 7) Sabre 8) New Orleans 9) Springfield 10)Constellation 11)Nebula
I prefer the uncluttered look of the movie era ships; also, like Shik, prefer the smaller ships, for the same reasons.
Posted by Magna Ultrus (Member # 239) on :
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Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
YOWZERS!
That's and impressive list Magna Ultrus.
I agree that the movie era ships do look more realistic than the series. I like the Galaxy-class most because well, I grew up with it for seven years ('88-'95). It's big and is powerful - far more powerful than we've ever been led to believe. It is a space hotel, but it is a fighting space hotel, with everything you need and plently of room for your family to come along.
I really do wish that TNG had had many more
BIG
battle scenes to show off the Galaxy's firepower . . . but noooooooo: we had to wait until season 6 of DS9! Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
I also like a few non-canon ships too, but here are my favorites:
but I dont like the Antares-class
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Oh my, the funny unchained.
Anyway, a ship I really like? The Son'a boomerangs.
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
AKB1979: He just took the ships and placed them in alphabetic order!!! He loves A's and hates Z's, obviously!
Magna Scrotum: You want Fist Contact Is Fist Contact what you want???
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
I've always liked the Miranda. The ship had the whole "workhorse" look to it, and it seemed capable of holding its own against the "superior" Constitution.
I also like the Miranda's next of kin, the Nebula-class. These ships just have that utilitarian look to them with their modules and underslung nacelles.
The Centaur isn't that bad either. Long nacelles always seem to look good. I'm sure with a proper paint scheme, she'd shine as the Miranda of the Excelsior style. For some reason, I think a four nacelled version of this ship, similar to the Constellation, would look very elegant (the Constellation is nice, but seems a little stubby).
Posted by Nim Pim (Member # 205) on :
Oh, and you wanted BIG battlescenes for TNG? Have you seen the klingon civil war battles of Redemption??? That's what it would've looked like!! Ships piloted by grannies!!
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
4 nacelled Centaur = Cheyenne, kinda?
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
Hey Captain Mike: You got schematics for all those ships, by any chance?
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
That's my master list of starship classes.. basically i am researching them one by one to find their source and if there is a schematic or not.. but many of them only exist as names, such as the Encyclopedia ships classes and ones from the LUG RPG book... im working, slowly but surely
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Words cannot describe how sick I am of looking at Mirandas and Excelsiors.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
I am too, Dukhat.
Captain Mike: If you ever want non canon conjectural histories ask me.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
to you, or anyone who might know: did we ever find out the provenance of the bizarre non-starship looking outlines of the Federation Starship Recognition Chart? Frobisher, Nordenskjold, etc? I'll try to scan them when i get the damn thing working again...
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
I remember the names, and used to have something on my hard drive about thse ships. If you show me em, I might be able to find my .jpg sheet.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
BWC/Defiant/whatever, if you want a whole lot of schematics of noncanon ships just go over to shipschematics.net. At least that's the address from my memory.
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
I was kinda hoping his would be hiher quality. And those aren't excactly accurate.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Define "accurate" for ships we've never seen on screen. None of them are going to be "accurate", they're all going to have been made up by someone.
Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
woah, how'd he get to be Senior Member so fast? he's only been here for like 2 months or something??? even i didnt have that much BS to post.
neways like a few ppl here i prefer the look (overall design look, color scheme) of the Movies 1-6 era. My favourite design is the Miranda, but the Refit-Connie and Excelsior are a close second wit the Oberth bringing up the rear. Besides the actual technical capabilities of the Oberth being crap, i actually like that design.
Of the recent era, my favourite design would have to be the Akira (and since i never subscribed to ST factfiles or equiv. or read any info from the ships designed [i forget his name]) - my reasons for liking that ship werent coz it had 15 torps or the capabilities which many a fanboy jerks off over. When i first saw the Thunderchild in ST:FC, i was like thats a very interesting design. Specially wit those catamarang hullshapes and the miranda-esque roll bar.
Buzz
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
I'm excited...I've been here for almost two years (longer if you include lurking) and I'll finally be a senior member in two posts!
Anyway, CaptainMike, the Cheyenne is okay, but the nacelles seem far too elevated for my tastes. If they were tucked in closer, I think she'd look much sleeker.
Posted by Vice-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
Then Ace, you're talking about my favorite ship, the Prometheus Class USS Prometheus. I like the fact that the interior colors were somewhat similar to the TMP refit Enterprise bridge, yet have the speed of a Sovereign and the defensive/offensive capabilities of a Defiant, and have the four-nacelle thing going on. It's a midsize ship with all the bells and whistles of larger and smaller ships.
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
I might like the Prometheus if she had a round saucer instead of that harsh triangle hull. The fact that she disabled a Nebula doesn't help her case either.
My favorite small ship so far is the refit Nova. All the elements of the Sovereign (which isn't really my favorite) in a nice little package. I particularly like how the nacelle pylon raise the nacelles in a very "proud" way, compared to Voyager's hinge pylons.
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Posted by Proteus (Member # 212) on :
quote:Originally posted by Magna Ultrus: AKIRAS AER TEH BEST EVAR.
I tottally agree.
Serously though, weather you are sticking with the design specs or the 'canon' specs for the Akira, i really like its design.
Posted by iam2xtreme (Member # 836) on :
steamrunner all the way. then akira. then sovereign.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
Constitution, all modifications. Jefferies, Sternbach, Probert. These are the ships that are real to me.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
"steamrunner all the way. then akira. then sovereign"
Wow. That was so terribly difficult to see coming, wasn't it?
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
quote:Originally posted by Nim Pim: AKB1979: He just took the ships and placed them in alphabetic order!!! He loves A's and hates Z's, obviously!
Gee, ya think?
And as for your comment about grannies flying the ships in Redemption - I agree.
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That's and impressive list Magna Ultrus.![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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