ok firstly i know this is starting to sound like 20 questions but theres just so much i need to know.
i love the steamrunner class. so im trying to build a guide to the class. its just that info is very thin on the ground, so to speak, and i was just hoping you guys could help.any info would rule but theres two things i need to know more than anything else. the number of decks and crew.
i have worked out that the ship has 88 escape pods. if each pod can hold 5 people then that works out at about 440 crew. thoughts? the rest i dont know. thanks in advance.
Posted by Toadkiller (Member # 425) on :
Yes.
That and a primer on capital letters and when to use them and you are set.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Well, yeah, punctuation and capital letters will save ya from a lot of trouble here. We like to dismember and eat newbies and to make rude burping noises while we're at it.
The Steamrunner is in all likelihood about 350 meters long, even though in some scenes she looks almost Akira-sized (and the Akira is easier to nail down at about 440 meters, thanks to the clearly laid out patterns of windows). The deck count on the sparsely windowed Steamrunner is difficult, but something like ten decks sounds likely.
The ship has only three relatively short visible phaser emitters, all on the forward dorsal surface, plus one invisible emitter firing from below the bow (we see the beam emerging from there in "First Contact"). The ship has no visually identifiable torpedo launchers, and has never been seen firing a torpedo. All this suggests the ship isn't primarily intended for ship-to-ship combat of the usual Trek kind. The ship thus might carry a special weapon of some sort, to compensate for the lack of conventional weaponry. (In any case, she isn't a civilian wuss, since she is often seen in combat, and never seen in non-combat roles.)
The ship has a gigantic shuttlebay door aft of the forward hull, plus two relatively large forward doors in the bow cutout. Perhaps she is a shuttlecarrier of some sort? She has generally only been seen in those big assault fleets of DS9, so a planetary assault role might be possible. Heck, the aft end of the forward hull is even shaped like a gigantic ramp along which tanks could roll down to the surface if the ship happened to land (although this would probably require jettisoning the engineering hull and the nacelles somehow!).
The large number of lifepods might reflect a large complement of troops carried aboard instead of a large operating crew. The unconventional shape and the gigantic engines might suggest high speed, or alternately heavy loads. But since we've never seen the type at warp, or even operating solo, we know nothing about her peformance, save for the fact that she can keep up with those Miranda class antiquities.
The registry numbers in the 54000 range would fall just below the earliest "Galaxy-type" registries (like those of the New Orleans class ships), and furthermore might suggest the 2340s as the launch date (assuming the registries are chronological and proceed more or less evenly, which is a rather bold assumption).
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
[ June 14, 2002, 05:44: Message edited by: Cpt. Kyle Amasov ]
Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
Now that' what I call detailed ! I'm doing a conjectural hisory of the class (one of my favourites) at the moment, should have it finished in a couple of days.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Ohhh, gods BLESS 'em, they named a New Orleans after Don Johnson.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik: Ohhh, gods BLESS 'em, they named a New Orleans after Don Johnson.
Funny you noticed it, because that's exactly what I thought when I saw it. Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
[ June 14, 2002, 10:45: Message edited by: Shik ]
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
Thought about doing a conjectural about the upgrading of the Lakota, assuming that she wasn't one of a kind but meant to serve as a testbed for future Excelsior upgrades.
Thankfully laziness struck me down once more.
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
Actually "Don Johnson" was the name of a person who ran one of the ships [a New Orleans Class.. I think it was originally named Cherokee]. We called them AGMs then, they're SMs now... don't ask me what it means, I can't remember.
--- BTW, you're speaking to a member of the techspecs development team and a player in that game--- I would gladly pass along critics, appropriate ones.
[ June 14, 2002, 14:14: Message edited by: J ]
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
Why doesn't your team promote the page? I found it 'by accident', but it's really impressive. How long did it take to write all this?
Posted by The BWC (Member # 818) on :
Great. Now I have to be as good as them with my non-canon ones. It's hard enough making the specs half as good as DITL! I need to find some employees.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I only wish that they'd have actual bridge / location sketches rather than that comprehensive text description. They seem to have some nifty ideas, but I can't wrap my head around where they actually want to put certain stations and accessways.
I wanna sketch..!
Mark
Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
That site called "Call to Duty" is damn good. Tomorrow I will read some of the stuff they have.
Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
ooh, well u'd expect that detail for a RPG thing wouldnt u? but kudos for the writers, too bad we didnt get sketches as well. I know how u feel Mr Nguyen
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
We're working on that--- we might actually have sketches in the future... I'll pass that along.
We haven't promoted the site yet because we aren't done yet... but we will be soon. I will pass that along gladly though...
Thanks guys.
Posted by Siwiak (Member # 842) on :
*waves hand* Hi everybody.
As J pointed out already, the Don Johnson was named after a former staff member who passed away some time ago, and it was only fitting to rename the ship he ran (formerly U.S.S. Comanche).
I happen to be a member of the group of guys putting that stuff together, with my personal credits going to the New Orleans, Defiant and Shuttles. Simply put, the reason we didn't include detailed images was because we wanted all the specs to be standard across the board and not show favoritism to any particular one. Featured ships such as the Intrepid and Galaxy would have tons of pics, while the New Orleans and Norway have less canon images then fingers on your right hand.
As we continue to work on finishing up a few more starship classes, I'll more the likely be updating the images section with various other pictures, including scans from Star Trek: The Magazine, etc.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Cool! Keep us updated.
However, a lot of the information is the same from ship to ship - probe and shuttle descriptions, most of the facilities, etc. Seeing as how most of it is pretty much copied form ship to ship, I would recommend instead that some sort of "standard ship facilities" file be written, and then each ship file would list the differences and amendments thereto. It's not like it's a bandwidth strainer, but we *are* reading the same stuff over and over again...
Mark
Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
i don't use capitalization, and i survived the cannibalism. nice RPG guides, by the way.
--jacob
Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
I told you so...
Things like shuttles and probes are going to be the same throughout the fleet, unless you have special builds like the multi-spatial probe or the Delta Flier--- neither of which we've taken into account because they were special cases.
Beyond that, it's somewhat convenient that all the information of a certain class is found on that class' page--- this is because one only needs to know about their ship's class. So, we put it all into one file.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Perhaps, but let's be honest - what Trek fan who'd want to read detailed information about one ship, would not want to read up about the other ships in the fleet?
Mark
Posted by Siwiak (Member # 842) on :
In the RPG we've made these specs for, I'm fairly certain that there's maybe only 5 of us who have all of our technical manuals memorized. A great number of our players are just casual Trek fans - people who have only the most popular class names memorized, guys who think that all Defiants have cloaks, etc.
To that end, we've made an effort for individual class specs to be a full package for that ship. Like the TNG and DS9 TMs, we're overly detailed on some things that some of our players could care less about.
While we aim to make some pretty damn good and detailed specs that try to remain as close to canon as possible, we're first and foremost creating them as reference guides for our players and staff who don't have schematics lying across their desks like I sadly do... *slumps head, then looks up at Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock poster on the wall*
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Fair enough - don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the content at all!
Mark
Posted by Siwiak (Member # 842) on :
Naw, naw... I understand ya. The reason I'm quick to say it is because I've already taken these same concerns to the management, and this is the answer they had for me ;-)
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