Ok, i'm new here, as you know and most of you are having digs at me for no reason. why is that? give me chance.
anyway. so i presume you all know the 47 rule thing that is famous among star trek fans. well have you ever noticed it in the registry's of some of the most important trek ships? its there, just reversed. here's the ships= uss defiant nx74205 uss valiant ncc74210 uss sovereign ncc74222 uss intrepid ncc74600 uss voyager ncc74656 uss prometheus nx74913 intentional or coincidence?
Posted by The New CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
quote:Ok, i'm new here, as you know and most of you are having digs at me for no reason. why is that? give me chance.
You have no chance to survive! Make your time!
[ June 19, 2002, 08:50: Message edited by: The New CaptainMike ]
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
the 74***'s are just the numbers that they are up to during TNG,DS9,Voyager years.
What was the first NEW registry we got? The Hood or the Tsiolkovsky?
Posted by iam2xtreme (Member # 836) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: the 74***'s are just the numbers that they are up to during TNG,DS9,Voyager years.
i see what you mean. but why the 74XXX's? it is the 47 rule reversed. im willing to put money on it.
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
Back in the early days of TNG Mike Okuda decided that the Galaxy class Explorers would have registries in the 71xxx range. As time went by newer ships got higher regsitries, so the initial Danube class Runabouts got 72xxx registries. By the time TNG ended and the Defiant and Intrepid were introduced the numbers had reached 74xxx. And (with the single exception of the Insurrection scout craft NCC-75227) registries have been stuck in that range ever since. Maybe they reason they got stuck there is part of the great 47 conspiracy, maybe it's just laziness.
[ June 19, 2002, 08:50: Message edited by: Identity Crisis ]
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Where'd you get the number for the Sovereign? For all we know, Sovvies are in the 75xxx or 76xxx range.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
You forget Sao Paolo which was NCC-75633. Theoretically, they could already be up to the 76xxx range by now...and maybe a stretch to say they could be barely passing into the 77xxx range now.
[ June 19, 2002, 09:58: Message edited by: Dat ]
Posted by Alpha Centauri (Member # 338) on :
quote:uss sovereign ncc74222
NCC-/NX-74222 for the Sovvie is a myth. It was a rumour, and nothing more than that, but it seems to have pretty stuck. There's nothing definitive about it. AFAIK, NCC-75000 was more or less approved by Okuda for use in Starship Spotter Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
Ah, forgot the Sao Paolo. And if they'd kept the same rate constant I'd actually expect them to be at around 85000 by now. Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Supposedly, the Saratoga's NCC-31911 comes from 3+1=4 and 9-1-1=7. Whether that was intentional, or something people came up w/ after the fact, I don't know.
Posted by Jb (Member # 724) on :
quote:Originally posted by TSN: Supposedly, the Saratoga's NCC-31911 comes from 3+1=4 and 9-1-1=7. Whether that was intentional, or something people came up w/ after the fact, I don't know.
Me thinks that they might be grasping at straws for this one...or are the PTB really that smart?
Regards Jb
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
There are other hidden 47s:
Transfer the letters of "ARCHER" into numbers: A = 1 R = 18 C = 3 H = 8 E = 5 R = 18
Then add and subtract them: 1+18-3+8-5+18=37
Finally add the first letter of Archer's first name (J).
37+10=47
[ June 19, 2002, 15:19: Message edited by: Spike ]
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Now that's really reaching it.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Serious!
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
The Defiant and Voyager regos fit the 47 thing:
Defiant 74205: 2+0+5=7 resulting in 747. Voyager 74656: 6-5+6=7 resulting in 747.
Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
Deep Space Nine ran for seven seasons, and Captain Sisko had 4 pips on his collar, so that's like a 47.
TNG is a similar case.
Also, if you subtract 3 from 50, which is half of 100, which is 1601 less than the registry of the USS Enterprise, you get, you guessed it: 47.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Where'd you get the "Data's Scout" reg number from? If it's correct - it does fit with the Sao Paulo appearing a year? later with a 75*** number.
I reckon the Sovereigns are still around the 73*** or 74***'s - cause they must have been around/being built/designed in TNG. I'd go >74520 (Deffie). and maybe around 74656 (Voyager) possibly after it. 74700/74800?
PLUS I don't believe there would be a constant rate to the registry numbers, I believe the Dominon war - would have pushed the number of ships up into the 75***'s. So in 15 years we've gone from 71's to 75's... and that depends on when the Galaxy got her registry. Probably when it was started. which gives a few years for the 72's, 73's and 74's to build up. roughly 7 years each for each 'thousand'?
That would make the 68's/69's roughly 20 years old. Which'd work. Or even earlier, cause I reckon the Cardassian Wars would have pushed up starship production. And season -2/-1/1/2/3 TNG would have been quite a lax time in Starship construction.
ALSO One must assume that 1701 and 2000 were OLD registry numbers for the time of the movies. Firstly the 1701 being given way back 20-30 years ealier. AND I reckon the Excelsior/Transwarp project was started a LONG time before TSFS... AND a lot of the Mirandas... the 18** etc. were quite old themselves. They could have been up to the 5000's to 7000's by the time of TUC/first part of Generations.
Andrew
Posted by The New CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
the number of Data's scout was conveniently printed on the side for you to read. Right next to where the name wasn't.
and, why all the fuss.. its pretty obvious registries arent sequential. just roughly so, based on era and with enough exceptions to prove the rule
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