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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :

Okay, I'm trying to write up an entry for the U.S.S. Relativity for my shiplist. I have this one teeny weeny little problem, though...

I'VE NEVER SEEN THE EPISODE "RELATIVITY" (VGR)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've just read through the startrek.com syopsis three times, as well as several related databse entries, and I just can't seem to get it. The plot involves a lot of complicated time travel (never my strong suit) and I'm just getting frustrated here. [Mad]

So, can somebody clue me in? What exactly was the flow of events in this ep, and what exactly was the role that the Relativity played?

Thanks a ton,
-MMoM [Big Grin]

Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :

Whoah. Like "fuck" and stuff...

The thread title, I must add, is quite the truism.

[ July 11, 2002, 01:03: Message edited by: The_Tom ]

Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :

Well, it's been a while since I've seen the episode, but I can help you get the basic stuff.

The Relativity was the base of operations for Braxton and his lieutenant (can't remember the name). They monitored the disruption in the timeline and transported Seven of Nine back and forth through different time periods in an effort to prevent Voyager from meeting an early doom.

Basically, the Relativity is a warp-capable starship of a radical design from the 29th Century. I think it was implied that this is Braxton's ship, but I not sure. It came with timeline monitors and a transporter capable of beaming individuals through time (although doing it too many times can cause death or something like it). It might also have some device that takes multiple copies of the same individual from different periods in time and integrates them into one being. Airbags are standard, I believe.

By the way, Monkey of Mim, thanks for brighting my night. On the forum summary page, this thread shows up as "I need some serious f*cking." [Smile]

[ July 10, 2002, 22:57: Message edited by: Siegfried ]

Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :

LT Ducane, Texas Boy. Played by Jay Karnes, who's now Detective Holland "Dutch" Wagenbach on "The Shield."

Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :

Well, if you've got a half hour to kill (or are REALLY curious), I'd strongly recommend checking out Jim Wright's review and summary of "Relativity." This guy really knows how to ramble, but he sure gets all the details down right, and makes a bunch of witty comments on the side. It's about as close as you can get to seeing the episode without actually watching it.

Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :

There is almost no information about the ship in the episode though. You only ever see the bridge and the exterior of the ship (you should be able to find schematics for both pretty easily).

The ship is supposedly of the Wells Class.

All the technical capabilities mentioned before are correct, as far as I remember.

The notable thing is that this ship can beam individuals through time whereas the Aeon (Capt. Braxton's ship from "Future's End") actually had to create a vortex and travel through time herself.

We never really found out whether or not the Relativity could travel through time herself, though I would assume she could.

Incedently, I've always kind of figured that the Aeon was the 29th century equivilant of a runabout or shuttle and was probably stored on a ship like the Relativity being used for temporal away missions.

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

Don't worry if the episode synopses didn't make a lot of sense. The episode itself didn't, either.

Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :

quote:
Originally posted by TSN:
Don't worry if the episode synopses didn't make a lot of sense. The episode itself didn't, either.

Well, it sure sounds like it! God, I hate sloppily-done time travel plots... [Roll Eyes]

Thanks for the link, MinutiaeMan!

Posted by Siwiak (Member # 842) on :

As Voyager episodes go, a smile crossed my face everytime an episode came along where the ship was blown up, then un-done. While the plot was generally better then the majority of episodes in that series, it did give us our best look at Utopia Planitia aside from that really small image of the surface in a certain TNG episode.

As the plotline goes, in basic, a Braxton from the future is trying to blow up Voyager because he went insane after being stuck back in the 90's in another Voyager episode. Another Braxton, this one being an earlier version of himself, was in command of the Relativity and in charge of unknowingly hunting down his future self. Like Minority Report, they hunt down people before the crimes occur... only, we have the fun of seeing Voyager blow up once. Seven of Nine, due to her Borg implants, has the unique ability to see the temporal explosive and is recruited by the future guys to run around Voyager during times that range from Kazon attacks, the present, and even at UP before the ship's launch. After killing off a few Sevens, they finally get it right and capture Evil Braxton with Janeway's help. All the events are un-done after they capture Evil Braxton, he spills his beans and tells them when he first came aboard and planted the bomb, and they prevent most of the episodes events from technically happening.

Somehow, they manage to reintergrate the various Braxtons, Janeways and Sevens back into their timelines.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

You can actually get a fairly good idea of the events of the episode from Krenim's Series ?.

Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :

Indeed, and have great fun all the while... [Big Grin]