Does anyone know what the ship prefix VK means? Eg. the VK Konovalov from Tom Clancy's "The Hunt for Red October" or the VK Velikan and VK Yuri Gagarin from the TNG episode "Up the Long Ladder".
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
It's not VK Konavalov, it's V. K. Konavalov. Apparently the TNG production team thought that "VK" was a prefix of some sort when in fact it would be like naming s a ship M. S. Gorbachev or L. E. Brezhnev.
As it stands, "Velikan" is the name of the chief engineer from "Red October," & apparently his descendants or some other branch of his family has discovered/will discover a star named for then, the 5th planet of which will be colonized & have a Federation shipyard in orbit of it.
And if I have to explain to you who Yuri Gagarin was, I'mma paddle yo' AZZ.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:It's not VK Konavalov, it's V. K. Konavalov. Apparently the TNG production team thought that "VK" was a prefix of some sort when in fact it would be like naming s a ship M. S. Gorbachev or L. E. Brezhnev.
Thanks for the information.
quote:As it stands, "Velikan" is the name of the chief engineer from "Red October,"
It's also the Russian word for "giant".
quote:And if I have to explain to you who Yuri Gagarin was, I'mma paddle yo' AZZ.
Well, I didn't ask who he was.
[ July 11, 2002, 11:03: Message edited by: Spike ]
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: VK?
Zlyydhaqw asjk Qeiornxmyxc!
Since it's obviously an error to have the VK-prefix, we can try to come up with a meaning for it. Maybe it's the name of the company running the ship, something like DY (allthough the DY-company seems to be a ship manufacturer, the VK-guys could be a transport company or Star Trek's equivalent of B5's Interplanetary Expeditions.
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
All replicants know that VK is short for "Voight-Kampf"!
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
We don't need any sort of complicated explanation, though. It's just part of the name of the ship. Hoorah!
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: We don't need any sort of complicated explanation, though. It's just part of the name of the ship. Hoorah!
But that's boring! Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
One context where I have seen VK used is when civilians abbreviate "warship" or "battleship". VK could in theory stand for "voyenyy korabl", literally "military ship".
Granted, the ships in "Up the Long Ladder" were performing the arguably civilian missions of colonization and exploration - but since we know the USSR will be reinstated anyway, it's not that much of a stretch to think that the military will take over all their space activities...
In any case, it's plausible to interpret the K in the prefix as "korabl". V could then stand for some counterintuitively chosen word for "space" or "star" or "colonization" or whatever.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
quote:but since we know the USSR will be reinstated anyway, it's not that much of a stretch to think that the military will take over all their space activities...
LOL! That's right, I guess it is. Seeing as Leningrad (and NOT St. Petersburg) seems to pop up at least twice. Once in TOS I think and then again in TVH, where the Alien weather guy was listing cities and their weather conditions. He was AWESOME! ) "Tokyo... 45% cloud cover..." I remember recommending a new series being based on him... instead of Enterprise... I still do ;o) (well PLUS Porthos). )
It's a wonder they've never tried a Star Trek half-hour comedy format... maybe something like The Odd Couple. Quark and Odo for example! ) "Quark Quark Quark" ;o) Tony Randall could guest-star as Morgg the Klingon Landlord! )
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
Uh, right. You're seemingly bashful today.
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: It's a wonder they've never tried a Star Trek half-hour comedy format... maybe something like The Odd Couple. Quark and Odo for example! ) "Quark Quark Quark" ;o) Tony Randall could guest-star as Morgg the Klingon Landlord! )
Star Trek comedy episodes MAKE ME PISS MY PANTS!
Therefore a comedy show would cause me to run out of trousers. This would not be good.
Posted by Colorful Cartman (Member # 256) on :
So, strip down to your underware. Problem solved.
Posted by Colourblind Harry (Member # 265) on :
Underware? Sounds like a crappy L337 H4XX0RZ site.
Posted by Magnus Pym Eye (Member # 239) on :
I suppose Underware is to cover a 1337 H4XX0R'5 software.
HAR!
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Oh, come on, this seems like perfect fodder for a Timo Explanation.
Consider: Chekov says that being stuck on Mudd's planet, surrounded by nubile and willing androids, is "even better than Leningrad." Well, St. Petersburg, like your typical Russian big city, is not exactly the Funnest Place on Earth. Certainly nothing to compare to an army of android servents.
Unless what Chekov was talking about wasn't Leningrad, but Leningradtm, just one of several such parks owned by Historical Amusments Ltd. Other HA sites include Constantinopletm (Enjoy the beautiful Black Sea while being pampered like a 5th century emperor!) and New Amsterdamtm (Relax in the easy pace of colonial America.)
See? Easy.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Unless what Chekov was talking about wasn't Leningrad, but Leningradtm, just one of several such parks owned by Historical Amusments Ltd.
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: We don't need any sort of complicated explanation.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
We don't need no thought control, neither!
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, Chekov was either speaking Russian, or some sort of Federation Standard. Either way, it was translated into English for the television. But it was translated into 1960s English. Therefore the word he used meaning "the large Russian city located on an inlet of the Gulf of Finland" was translated into "Leningrad" rather than the now-appropriate "St. Petersburg".
There. No problem. :-)
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
He could also have said "Lennongrad," a city founded by those damn dirty Beatles disciples.
Posted by Captain... Mike (Member # 709) on :
or the USSR will re-evolve sometime after WWIII and perfect the idea of communistic government, without being threatened by the other half of the world, and re-re-name all the affected cities.
Theyll realize their brief flirtation with capitalism was a mistake..
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) "Tokyo... 45% cloud cover..." I remember recommending a new series being based on him... instead of Enterprise... I still do ;o) (well PLUS Porthos). ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)