I was watching the DS9 episode "Favor the Bold" and in one of the big Federation fleet fly bys the defiant appears to be semi-invisable! only certain surfaces are there and you can see some fighters flying behind it. Could a mistake this obvious be left in?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Well, considering that it's taken you 4 years to notice, I don't think we can call it "obvious".
What shot anyway? There were only two fleet flybys in "Favour The Bold" as I recall, the first one where the fleet leaves the starbase (reused in WYLB), and one just before it cuts to inside the Defiant and everyone realising that there are a lot of Dominion and Cardassian ships in front of them.
Posted by iam2xtreme (Member # 836) on :
Second. And I noticed when I first bought the video but as I'm fairly new here I've only just mentioned it.
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
Interesting. I've never noticed anything like that and I must have seen that scene a dozen times. I'll check my tape in the morning and see if I can spot it.
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
I've watched the bit described. First, I don't see any blooper. Second, that scene uses the physical model, not the CGI.
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
May I add a possible blooper, too? One of the last episodes (Dogs of War? The one where they get the Defiant-A): the ship leaves the station and for a short moment seems to be semi-invisible, too. Don't know why, maybe I'm wrong, but it was a funny coincidence seeing it after I read the topic.
Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :
What are you guys smokin'? IIRC the new Defiant doesn't leave the station until "WYLB". The Sao Paulo arrives, the ship docks, the DS9 crew look around. End of story. The couple of shots of the Sao Paulo was stock footage of the Defiant miniature.
Posted by Dr. Phlox (Member # 878) on :
^ There were a couple of new shots in the WyLB battle, the barrel roll, a bit when Defiant chases an attack ship and a few others. I have seen any of this invisability though, I thought it was Voyager that had transparent scenes.
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
As well as transparent storylines....
Some of these contained plot-holes so big you could sqeeze an entire galaxy through them.
Posted by Siwiak (Member # 842) on :
Heh, pass the bud this way guys... I didn't see anything. As for Voyager, I do recall the CG model having some flaws in the openning credits, mostly with the textures being off.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Um, I believed they used the physical model when they did Voyager's opening credits.
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
They used CGI for the wake-inducing nebula shot, and for the final flyby that ends in a warp jump. During the final flyby, look at the bottom of the secondary hull... there are two black, featureless spots where the textures weren't applied.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
Hi. I have found an other CG blooper: This is the Endgame fleet. Look at the galaxy class saucer impulse engine.
Lobo
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
I am lost. What about it? Is it misaligned? Are the two not even?
Or are you just pointing out that it is lit? And thus saying that they didn't bother to return the lighting on the model to its prewar state? Which is, I suppose, a valid comment, but hardly a mistake.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
hmm THEY ARE ON! I all TNG episodes when the saucser was docked on the secundary hull were the saucer impulse engiens off. Only if the saucer is seperated then should be the engines on.
Lobo
[ August 24, 2002, 14:31: Message edited by: Lobo ]
Posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain (Member # 709) on :
old news, o unintelligible one.
we have all discussed this before, as it is quite common knowledge the saucer lights were always off before the CGI version.
but now they are on! oh no!
I the hole?
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain: old news, o unintelligible one.
we have all discussed this before, as it is quite common knowledge the saucer lights were always off before the CGI version.
but now they are on! oh no!
I the hole?
ohh sorry Mikey boy
and "unintelligible" was unnecessarily
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Untrue, at least I think. The saucer engines are lit in saucer seperation scenes. I just finished watching the first and second seasons of TNG, so I am reasonably, though not totally, sure this is the case. At any rate, an interesting or perhaps unusual choice from an FX view, perhaps, but not a mistake.
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
I AM FIENDISH
Posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain (Member # 709) on :
nowhere in this thread has that been brought into question, UM
Posted by Magnus de Pym (Member # 239) on :
It was a clever edit, young sir.
Posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain (Member # 709) on :
I the hole reason the secundary saucser impulse engiens is war after use them reason some.
Posted by Lobo (Member # 669) on :
quote:Originally posted by The Mike Who Would Be Captain: I the hole reason the secundary saucser impulse engiens is war after use them reason some.
lol
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
ROFL - no, not really.
But I guess the FX-guys responsible for the CGI GCS (what a nice acronym!) just like it when their ships are lit like a christmas tree - the more "candles" the better.
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